Dinwiddie Colored Quartet Puns

What's up r/nba, It's Spencer Dinwiddie, guard for the Washington Wizards. After playing in the NBA for 7 years, I have a lot of thoughts on how to shake things up. If I was the Commissioner, I would let players sell sponsorships on their jerseys, I wouldn’t tech them for heckling courtside fans and I’d have teams play a tournament for the #1 draft pick.

That’s just the beginning, though. You can hear all of my thoughts on The Players' Tribune YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MjQ_edB3VA&list=PLXxForFmBnEvj0hhHIXkCf1eM274LFDci

Ya’ll know I have a lot of ideas and interests, so Ask Me Anything.

Proof: https://i.redd.it/1tjvog301pu71.jpg https://twitter.com/PlayersTribune/status/1450834559277359114.

Stats with/without each other:

 

There is a staggering difference between the two players when one sits vs. when they play with each other. We seen this when Dinwiddie played on the Nets when majority of the team was injured. You can even see a staggering difference between their shooting splits.

• Beal is a SG that has ball handling capabilities.
• Spence is a shoot first PG that can't really shoot.
• Both require high usage + rhythm in order to get their shots flowing. (I can't really see this pair coexist, I even think WB+Beal is a better pairing).

With the recent 2 game performance, Is this a sell high opportunity with Beal?

 

Disclaimer: I don't own Beal, but owned Dinwiddie. Dropped him several weeks back, and never been happier.

What is going on, Kyrie is already playing again after spending a week and a half with the team.

Rui has been here since almost the beginning of the season, we are going onto game 39 still in the dark with no idea when he’s gonna play

I had high hopes for him before the draft. In the first couple of weeks, I thought drafting him in the sixth round was a massive steal. Then it all went downhill. Today marks the second dud of the season from Mr. Bitcoin, who missed all seven shots to deliver 0/7/4.

On top of that, he misses back-to-back games. Just really frustrating. And the league I'm in is really deep (16-team) so you can't get any quality FA if I'm to drop him.

Dinwiddie exploded today in Madison Square Garden today with Beal in COVID protocols, with a line of 21 points, 7 rebounds, and 12 assists, along with a block and steal.

In the 4 games without Bradley Beal on the court, Spencer Dinwiddie has averaged 26 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists, and 4 3PM per game. All while shooting 50% from the field and 48.5% from the 3-point line in 4 games. Oh, and the Wizards are also 4-0 without Beal.

Bradley Beal on Spencer Dinwiddie on 12/15: "Obviously I would love for him to be more aggressive and I've told him that plenty of times." Source

Kyle Kuzma on Spencer Dinwiddie after the game today: "I think he was more of himself. We haven't seen that Spence in a month or so." Source

Spencer Dinwiddie after the game today on his health: “I’ve been back now for a while. I feel good. I’m assuming the back-to-back restriction will come off soon.”

https://twitter.com/chriswcrouse/status/1474224803141799945?s=21

Dinwiddie has obviously been frustrating as hell to own. In my case, I drafted Dinwiddie, dropped him 4 days ago in a 12 teamer, no one picked him up, and picked him up today immediately upon hearing the Beal news. It’s obvious he has a different mindset when he’s the primary ball handler. It’s great to hear that Dinwiddie expects the B2B restriction to be lifted because that is a huge annoyance for all his owners. The Wizards also eventually lifted the B2B restriction for Westbrook last year and he went off, so you would have to think they’ll do the same for Dinwiddie eventually as well. It’s also great to hear that everyone on the team wants Dinwiddie to be more aggressive while on the court.

What are your thoughts on Dinwiddie? Did you pick him up before today’s game? Do we think this is a good sign for things to come?

Man. What a disappointment Dinwiddie has been. Early in the season, he appeared to be engaged, but was still very inconsistent. Well, he’s found some consistency. Consistently shit. He looks like he doesn’t care at all out there, which is especially upsetting for me as a big Dinwiddie fan since 2017. I know he was never super efficient or anything, but he was certainly better than this. He’s showed flashes this year of that guy, but very rarely and only when beal is out. One thing I think is making things kinda odd for Spence is the rotation. He doesn’t ever stay in for long periods of time, which I guess is because of his ACL. But if he wants to turn this around, he’s gonna have to show a little effort out there. What can we expect from him ROS? How are my fellow Dinwiddie owners feeling about him?

I’m sort of convinced at this point that Brad and Spence are better when they aren’t trying to share primary ballhandler duties. When they’re on the floor at the same time, they always seem to become a bit redundant - one of them takes over and the other kind of disappears, or in the worst case they both just seem tentative and neither plays to their ability. As long as we have both of them, would it be best to develop two different ‘looks’ - a ‘Brad look’ and a ‘Spence look’?

Brad is a great ballhandler who is elite at getting to the rim, but imo he has the edge on Spence as a mid-post shooter who can pull up for a floater now and then. I think Brad pairs well with Kuz for this reason - when the lane is too congested Brad can pull up in the middle of the lane and either shoot the floater or dish to Kuz on the perimeter for either an uncontested three or a ballfake -> slash to the hoop. Gaff is also extremely useful in this sort of cycling drive -> kick -> drive scenario for cleaning up around the rim, getting putbacks, etc.

To me, Spence is more of a classic isoball kind of guard - he’s all about dictating tempo, looking for favorable matchups, sudden explosions of pace from a standstill, that sort of thing. He doesn’t seem to do as well orchestrating elaborate offenses that involve lots of moving parts and multiple passes before the shot, but he does seem to get a lot of assists in a more opportunistic way with outlet passes, quick dishes to the low post, etc. Given his isoball prowess I think he makes the most sense alongside sharpshooters who can create spacing and get themselves open for a quick catch-and-shoot three. In my mind KCP is the most obvious pairing but I’d also be curious to see Thomas Bryant in this configuration. If Bryant can connect on threes when he returns, having him in a stretch 5 role where he pops out to the perimeter could really free up the lane for Spence to do his 1v1 thing. Rui could be another piece of this puzzle - he has a knack for off-ball movement that makes him a really promising candidate for Spence’s spontaneous playmaking style. Plus, if his mid-range shot is as good as I remember it being, then you’ve got the potential for a Bryant-Hachimura duo that’s legitimately threatening enough to draw opposing bigs out of the paint so Spence can get to the hoop.

This brings me to Bertans and Harrell, who I see as strangely similar if you take a step back and consider what they bring to an offense. Both are highl

He’s played 4 games without Beal, and 23 games with him, but this is concerning that he’s played really well without Beal and pretty bad with him considering they signed him to a big contract over the offseason and Beal is Washington’s star player.

Maybe they should make a sixth man like Brooklyn did?

Sources: https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/spencer-dinwiddie-stats-without-bradley-beal-this-year https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/spencer-dinwiddie-stats-with-bradley-beal-this-year

why does it seem like they don’t play well together? or is it too early to say?

3-0 when brad is out 2-1 when spence is out 8-7 when playing together

Beal's interview with Chris Haynes last week made headlines for what he said about not signing an extension yet, but shoutout to u/z3mcs for suggesting we listen to the full podcast, because Brad also had interesting thoughts on signing Dinwiddie that feel more relevant than ever now with all the talk about Dinwiddie's recent poor play. Transcription cleaned up a tiny bit for clarity.

>BB: I developed an established [relationship] with Spencer during the summer. The ultimate thing was, "Damn, who's gonna play the point?" Right? We didn't have any point guards. So the point guards—we were running out of options for a minute. K-Lo got off the board. Conley went back to Utah. And so you're looking like, "okay—"
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>CH: You're thinking big at that point! Those are the top two point guards in free agency.
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>BB: Those are the top two. So you're like, "ah, okay, you gotta really get on your horse." So you look at Spence, you're like, okay, well Spence just had his injury, so that's a risk, right? But you've seen what Spence was able to do the year before in Brooklyn, right? And then on top of that, his size. 6'6 point guard, right? You can't just negate that. He has one of the best quick steps in the league, finishing at the rim, and he's a side-step shooter out here from 3.

I appreciate Brad's honesty. Folks hate on Dinwiddie, but I don't know who else we could've signed as starting PG. Could we have made the money work to sign Lowry or Conley? I dunno, without sacrificing elsewhere in the lineup. I'm still hopeful Spence returns to form as his knee eventually fully recovers.

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The no-look pass from last night (via @RealQuintonMayo)

Five days ago:

Spencer Dinwiddie on Kyle Kuzma's no-look passеs: “Sometimеs Kuz is throwing, not no-look passеs, but lооk passеs. Hе throws, the dudе catches it, thеn hе lооks this way. It's likе, 'That’s not hоw a no-lооk pass works, bro.' But yоu know, hе's still learning thе nuances of that sidе of things.”

Kuzma responds:

>Watch my film I could teach you how to pass young fella.

Loool Kuz finally did it

Now that I’m completely over that loss from last night(okay not COMPLETELY, but I feel better now) I can make this post.

Over Beal and Dinwiddie’s last 3 games with the other not playing(small sample size I know) each guy has played SO much better without their starting counterpart playing.

Is this something that chemistry can hopefully fix as we move towards the All-Star break or have we seen enough of this Beal/Dinwiddie backcourt experiment?

min 3 ISO's per game, any less and it got too noisy

1. James Harden (1.16PPP) on 6.4 ISO possessions per game

2. Bradley Beal (1.15) on 3.9 ISO possessions per game

3. DeMar DeRozan (1.12) on 3.2 ISO possessions per game

4. Kevin Durant (1.12) on 4.9 ISO possessions per game

5. Spencer Dinwiddie (1.09) on 3.1 ISO possessions per game

Wild to think that even with his struggles Harden is leading the league in PPP among those averaging over 3 ISO's per game, and is only second to the amount of ISO's per game to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (7.8 per game and 1.01PPP). He ranks second in FT frequency off of ISO's as well, getting fouled 20% of the time he drives which is actually up 5% from last year, giving even more weight to the idea that his FTA are down moreso because of his FGA and usage going down (he ISO'd 8 times per game last year and 14 times a game the year before, meaning his FTA almost scaled linearly with those possessions)

source: NBA.com

https://twitter.com/underdog__nba/status/1481098369208659970?s=21

He needs the kemba treatment right now

Averaging 13/5/5 on 39/33/84, 51 TS. Advanced stats are all horrific.

Last 11

9/5/5 on 32/24/73, 43 TS

54M. Meanwhile got Patty 2yrs 16M.

Yes he's coming off injury but we've seen players take a whole year to get back into at least the form they were in after the same injury. This team doesn't have time to wait.

I’m 8-1 in a 12-man points league, drafted Dinwiddie 55th overall 🤮. Held out early because I didn’t need to make a move but now it feels like its getting too late to squeeze value out of him + league is very top heavy. Package with Eric Gordon for a low end roster-able player or something? Pretty much wasting a roster spot right now.

I could sit on him and see what happens but I’m getting impatient. Any ideas/targets ty ty

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