(UPDATE) cold water lime vs oven pasteurization experiment

Original post :

Just started a little experiment with the first grain bag that was ready (Tidal Wave) to go. The others have a week or two left of colonizing.

Split the bag into two and put half into cold water lime pasteurized coir mix and other half into oven pasteurized.

Fingers crossed to see how we go

β˜…

UPDATE:

Well the cold water lime one failed. Trichoderma... Its now in the garden.

The oven pasteurized one is now just into fruiting stage with perfect coverage πŸ‘

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How does cold pasteurization with lime/vinegar enable intended mushrooms to grow but not competing bacteria/fungi?

Still quite new to growing mushrooms, but I can't wrap my head around this one. As I understand, lime/vinegar lowers the pH to reduce the risk of contaminants, but wouldn't that acidic environment also make it harder for the intended mushrooms to grow? Also, does the pH slowly raise over time, or maintain its acidity as the block is colonized?

Just curious about the whole sterilization/pasteurization/colonization process. Open to suggestions and alternatives

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Laconocal
πŸ“…︎ Jan 06 2022
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[general] I recently switched to Hemp Hurd as a substrate and would like to ditch heat pasteurization and switch to cold water pasteurization with agricultural lime. What PH range should I aim for to achieve the best results?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/buffalogoldcaps
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[technique] Can I use quick lime instead of hydrated lime for cold water pasteurization of straw

I don't have hydrated lime to pasteurize hay for substrate. But I have quick lime and wanted to know if I can use it and if any process should be different. Both quick lime and hydrated lime are alkaline so wouldn't it work? Thanks!

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πŸ‘€︎ u/lonepopper
πŸ“…︎ Sep 07 2021
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cold pasteurization of coco coir

Has anybody tried any type of cold pasteurization of coco? If so how did it go?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/foolishwelp
πŸ“…︎ Sep 12 2021
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[technique] Useful Life of Lime Bath for Cold Water Pasteurization

Those who have experience using lime baths for cold pasteurization of bulk, how long can you store and reuse the lime solution? I have a 5gal solution I’ve used two times so far and it’s been sitting for about a month. pH is still 10+. Seems like as along as it’s alkaline it should be fine but I haven’t had much luck finding any information on how many times a batch can be reused or stored. Thanks!

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πŸ‘€︎ u/IllustriousAd9696
πŸ“…︎ Sep 18 2021
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Tub is about to be poppin cold pasteurization followed by oven pasteurization
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Lucid_the_kid
πŸ“…︎ Jun 08 2021
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Cold AND dry pasteurization method.

Hey fungi fam. Does anyone know of an achievable way to pasteurize substrate without soaking it, or heating it? I'm thinking ozone, or UV, but is that unrealistic?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/jcsad6644
πŸ“…︎ Aug 31 2021
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Cold Water Lime Pasteurization seems like the dream. Why is it only applicable to straw?

Could you not cook your grain and then lime pasteurize it? Is the lime as wonderful and fool proof as it seems? It seems to me to be pretty hard and contam proof from the internet ravings.

Obviously a noob. Teach me things!

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[General] Baking soda for cold water pasteurization instead of hydrated lime?

Thinking it would be a good idea to try since it achieves the same purpose that is increasing the ph of the substrate

+ its easier to get hold of

Any thoughts? ( for Oysters obviously )

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πŸ‘€︎ u/lajos93
πŸ“…︎ May 08 2021
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Bentonite and pectic enzyme in primary, cold crashing, and pasteurization gets this clarity in 13 days
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Prussian_Junker
πŸ“…︎ Oct 22 2020
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[gourmet] Somewhat stemmy but large oyster mushrooms. ~ 5+ lbs off two straw logs (cold water / lime pasteurization) reddit.com/gallery/lhed77
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Lrobb88
πŸ“…︎ Feb 11 2021
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SARS-CoV-2 in human milk is inactivated by Holder pasteurization but not cold storage medrxiv.org/content/10.11…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/BurnerAcc2020
πŸ“…︎ Jun 21 2020
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Cold water lime pasteurization

Hi all,

Newbie and preparing to start mushroom cultivation.

Does anyone of these Hydrated Lime from Bunnings suits for lime pasteurization?

Dingo Hydrated Lime or Easy Mix Hydrated Lime?

Thank you.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/komiks727ph
πŸ“…︎ Feb 15 2021
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How feasible would it be to make a cold pasteurization (food irradiation) machine for home use?

I know there's probably regulations that would get in the way, but ignoring that, from a technical standpoint, could you do it? I've heard industrial ones are quite large, but I don't know if they have to be.

I kind of want one.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/NuderWorldOrder
πŸ“…︎ Dec 25 2020
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[Gourmet] Ash cold water pasteurization

Does anyone have experience with ash cold water pasteurization? I live in Africa and it's really hard for me to get supplies like hydrated lime. But I have access to lots of ash. If anyone has experience or can send more to a link to give me information on how much ash to use when pasteurizing that would be great. I know the pH has to be between 10 and 12 but I can't get litmus paper to test this either so any info would be great! Thanks in advance.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/zimclarke
πŸ“…︎ Oct 09 2020
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[General] Cold Pasteurization Lime

Does Mrs. Wages pickling lime work for cold pasteurizing straw, or do I need to get the home depot stuff? What ph does it need to get to? How much do I need to mix in with the water?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/DroAway-1
πŸ“…︎ Jun 23 2020
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[General] It's bulk sub day! Been really enjoying the cold pasteurization technique for straw.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/just_say_neutrino
πŸ“…︎ Jun 18 2020
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[x-post from /r/covid19] SARS-CoV-2 in human milk is inactivated by Holder pasteurization but not cold storage reddit.com/r/COVID19/comm…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/freyascats
πŸ“…︎ Jun 22 2020
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Straw Cold pasteurization
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πŸ‘€︎ u/s2focus
πŸ“…︎ Jun 16 2020
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[technique] Is there a maximum time duration for hydrated lime cold pasteurization?

I left substrate in a bucket with hydrated lime for cold pasteurisation but it has now been two weeks and I still haven't remove excess water.

Is the substrate still good?

If I perform the inoculation process next week (drain excess water and add grain spawns) will it work?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Jonyvilly
πŸ“…︎ Jun 15 2020
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[general] cold pasteurization? How do I grow?

I just bought a 50 pound bag of hydrated lime, (99% limestone).. and about 8 cubic feet of aspen shavings and straw..

I have a starter bag of pink oyster mushrooms, and was wondering how to exactly do the cold pasteurization, and what to do with the excess water once I soak the shavings in the solution..

I am planning on putting the aspen into a large new trash can, soaking it for 24 hours, then moving them into 5 gallon buckets with holes drilled in them. I saw someone doing that and really liked the idea of using the buckets...

I just want some guidance and advice, if anyone could help me with learning the beginnings, and stuff. I want to make sure I do this right and don't end up messing it up or anything. And definitely don't want to accidentally kill my lawn, by the lime being somewhere it isn't supposed to...

I just want something like pink or blue oyster mushrooms for now, because I heard those are really hearty, so I don't have to worry about managing it TOO much...

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πŸ‘€︎ u/MasonP13
πŸ“…︎ Sep 02 2020
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Cold water Pasteurization?

So I’ve been looking into cold water pasteurization and finding a few different teks but how do the fungi survive such high pHs? I understand that hydrated lime will turn into calcium carbonate, but when people use wood ashes and bring it up to a pH of 11 how does it come back down to something more reasonable?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Possible-Tax
πŸ“…︎ Jan 05 2020
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Cold Water Pasteurization

Hi fellow Redditors!

Was hoping to hear about the pros' and con's associated with using hydrated lime or calcium hydroxide?

Also, if you have experience, what is a link to a trustworthy source of the chemicals required.

thanks!

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πŸ‘€︎ u/LeonidastheWizard
πŸ“…︎ Mar 10 2020
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Phoenix oysters. cold pasteurization on wheat straw
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πŸ‘€︎ u/trewawaaaay
πŸ“…︎ Apr 19 2020
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[Technique] I'll update more in a week. Phoenix oyster on cold pasteurization wheat straw.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/up2myElbow
πŸ“…︎ Mar 13 2020
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[General] Cold Water Lime Pasteurization

Hi guys newbie here! I'll try to grow King Oyster as a hobby, and i started today with wood chips (poplar wood) pasteurized with lime.. i wasn't able to get hydrated lime so i get quick lime (CaO) and made it react with water.. i added the mix to water until i get pH 12. I'll let the wood chips and coffe grounds soak with that water during 12h.

What do you thin about this? Sorry about my English!

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πŸ‘€︎ u/mrairpetre
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Questions about bottling cold crashing and pasteurization.

So I just finished bottling a wine I had cold crashed for a week to get all the sediment at the bottom. However I realized after I finished corking them that there might be some problems storing the bottles at room temperature because I bottled while it was still cold. It's only the second wine I have made and I made some begginer mistakes that lead to it being very sweet (1.08 FG) and low ABV. (More info at the end)

My question is: Is it safe to store these bottles at room temperature? I bottled straight out of the fridge and while I'm sure I kept the majority of the yeast out, I'm unsure whether or not it is safe to leave the wine at room temperature in case any yeast warm up and become active again. I only left about half an inch between the bottom of the cork and the wine when I bottled so I'm not exactly sure how much the yeast could actually start to ferment again with that little oxygen.

On another note, could I kill the yeast by pasteurizing the bottles in hot water (150 degrees for 10 minutes) safely due to the difference in temperature (the wine was racked straight out of cold crashing so it is fairly cold)?

I'm not exactly sure where to go from here or how to ensure the yeast don't start fermenting again without storing in the fridge. I would like to age at room temperature if possible. Is it safe to do either of the things I mentioned about without a risk of exploding bottles?

Some other information: The yeast I used was fleischmann's dry yeast OG was 1.134 FG was 1.08 for 2 consecutive weeks before bottling

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πŸ‘€︎ u/EmperorSpooky
πŸ“…︎ Mar 06 2020
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[Technique] Cold pasteurization advice- What to use?

I could use some help finding something for cold-pasteurizing straw. I cannot find local high calcium lime (calcium carbonate), so I need another option. Thank you for any help!

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πŸ‘€︎ u/DaDirgensfish
πŸ“…︎ Dec 22 2018
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blue bottle cold brew, shelf stable, no pasteurization

Does anyone have any ideas on how blue bottle creates a shelf stable cold brew can without pasteurization?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/caf-a-lot
πŸ“…︎ Sep 21 2018
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[technique] Cold Water Pasteurization

For the folks that use hydrated lime water for cold pasteurization. How do you dispose of your water when you are done with it? I understand that the PH is so high it would kill any plants if you just pour it off onto the ground. Do you neutralize it first then pour it off? Is this stuff safe to pour down the drain?

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Cold Pasteurization at Home

I'm going to make my first attempt at juicing my own apples and making cider from that rather than buying a gallon of UV pasteurized cider from my local orchard. I want it to be as safe as possible so I do plan on pasteurizing but want to do it cold.

Do you have any favorite (and affordable) at home UV pasteurizing devices?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Mysterywriter221
πŸ“…︎ Oct 15 2015
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DIY Cold Pasteurization?

I am interested in cold pasteurization. The way it works is by killing microorganisms with ionizing radiation. It seems like a small cold pasteurization unit would be useful around the house, to preserve food without heat. Does anyone know how to make such a unit?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/vague_blur
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[gourmet] todays blue oyster harvest 3.5 lbs first flush with humidifier broken! Grown on cold pasteurized straw logs, no supplementation.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/boygunius
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Cold Pasteurized Substrate reddit.com/gallery/ruppag
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Extra_Jump_157
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(UPDATE) cold water lime vs oven pasteurization experiment

Original 1 week ago post :

Just started a little experiment with the first grain bag that was ready (Tidal Wave) to go. The others have a week or two left of colonizing.

Split the bag into two and put half into cold water lime pasteurized coir mix and other half into oven pasteurized.

Fingers crossed to see how we go

UPDATE:

Well the cold water lime one failed. Trichoderma... Its now in the garden.

The oven pasteurized one is now just into fruiting stage with perfect coverage πŸ‘

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A little experiment of cold water lime vs oven pasteurization

Just started a little experiment with the first grain bag that was ready (Tidal Wave).

Split the bag into two and put half into cold water lime pasteurized coir mix and other half into oven pasteurized.

Fingers crossed to see how we go 🀞

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Experiment - cold water lime pasteurization vs oven

Just started a little experiment with the first grain bag that was ready (Tidal Wave) to go. The others have a week or two left of colonizing.

Split the bag into two and put half into cold water lime pasteurized coir mix and other half into oven pasteurized.

Fingers crossed to see how we go 🀞

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[General] Cold Pasteurization using Hi-Yield

Is it safe to use Hi-Yield Hydrated Lime for cold pasteurizing straw?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/DroAway-1
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