Pope Francis: "I want a mess. We knew that in Rio there would be great disorder, but I want trouble in the dioceses! I want to see the church get closer to the people. I want to get rid of clericalism, the mundane. Because these need to get out!” newsinfo.inquirer.net/453…
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Why do some pastors act in this manner? Is this an example of clericalism?

I sent my pastor a highly tactful, clear and brief email asking that he please take action to ensure the doors are kept closed between the sacristy and sanctuary/nave at my parish before Mass. I explained that with the doors left open, sacristy conversations boom through the church (it is a very "live" atmosphere) and people end-up using the doors as an entrance to the church -- often walking past the Most Blessed Sacrament without so much as a head nod.

I included a photo that I took before a Mass a few weeks earlier showing people visiting in the sanctuary, leaning against both the altar and ambo and again, ignoring the tabernacle. I had a respected friend vet the email before I sent it, just to be absolutely sure of my tone and verbiage. She said it was fine as written and offered no emendations.

The response from my pastor was flat-out rude. It boiled down to: you don't know what you're talking about, mind your own business, if you don't like things they way they are, contact the vicar for clergy or bishop, and that he would never read an email of mine again. I cannot think of another setting, be it: family, work, govt, education, commerce, fraternal or service organizations, etc. that wouldn't result in some fairly serious consequences for the person sending the email that my pastor sent.

I forwarded both his email and my email to the vicar for clergy along with the comment "Members of the faithful should not be treated in this manner by their pastors." The VFC responded very formally, ignoring my pastor's behavior and instead writing six paragraphs explaining that only the bishop could remove my pastor. Why did he even bring that up? Where does that mindset come from? I didn't ask for anyone to be reassigned. Seems like nothing more than a bunker mentality to me?

In the end, my pastor sent me a cringe-worthy email where he really tipped his hand. His email contained emotion and lapses in good judgement that should never communicated verbally, much less written. So why do so many Catholic pastors act in this manner? Is it because they know there's almost no chance they are going to face any serious repercussions? If that's the case, why is it like that? Perhaps because of the shortage of priests, which makes bishops hesitant to discipline priests?

Interestingly enough, the doors now stay closed and my pastor now acts very "careful" in my presence. That's good enough for me. My apologies for writing so much. Thank you f

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This cleric in Iran goes to a hospital where Coronavirus patients are treated. He makes them smell a liquid saying"this is from the prophet. It'll cure you". After exposing himself to the virus, he walks out of the hospital. twitter.com/AlinejadMasih…
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Three doctors sentenced to flogging in Iran for β€˜insulting’ cleric english.alarabiya.net/en/…
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Iranian cleric (former Minister of Justice in Iran) claims Albert Einstein was a Shi'a Muslim

Here is the video, although it's in Persian, he is very clear about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvimH4Jbdwo

For those who don't know, this mullah was at one point, shortly after the Islamic revolution, Iran's Acting Prime Minister. He was also the Minister of Interior and Minister of Justice.

It reminds me of how Muslims claim all those secular, non-religious scientists and achievers, even critics of Islam in the middle ages like Razi, Khayyam and others, who made discoveries under the Caliphate were "Muslims" and it was an Islamic Golden age. Einstein didn't even live under Muslim rule and Muslims are gonna claim he was Muslim. A few centuries from now, Muslims will probably claim today's scientists were Muslim.

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Iraq: Anti-government protesters hold largest rally since demonstrations began. Hundreds of thousands took to the streets to demand an overhaul of Iraq's political system. Protesters also took aim at Iran's influence, with Iraq's top cleric warning foreign powers from interfering in protests dw.com/en/iraq-anti-gover…
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Sayyid Ruhollah MΕ«savi Khomeini, also known in the Western world as Ayatollah Khomeini, was an Iranian politician and cleric. Wikipedia Born: 24 September 1902, Khomein, Iran Died: 3 June 1989, Tehran, Iran
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To preserve Shi'ite power in [Iraq] , Iran-backed groups turn to renegade cleric in.reuters.com/article/ir…
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In this Saturday, March 7, 2020 file photo, a cleric, right, assists a medic treating a patient infected with the new coronavirus, at a hospital in Qom, about 80 miles (125 kilometers) south of the capital Tehran, Iran. Nine out of 10 cases of the virus in the ME come from the Islamic Republic.
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The pervasive problem of clericalism local10.com/news/florida/…
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To preserve Shi'ite power in Iraq, Iran-backed groups turn to renegade cleric

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 79%. (I'm a bot)


> According to senior Iraqi officials and militia insiders, they promised Sadr a greater say forming a new Iraqi government and an augmented spiritual leadership role among Shi'ite paramilitary groups.

> The agreement, sponsored by Iran and the Lebanese Hezbollah group, sought to preserve Shi'ite power in Iraq by uniting the factions of the Iran-backed groups with their rival Sadr.

> "Iran saw Sadr as the only solution to prevent the collapse of Shi'ite power under protest pressure and the weakening of factions it backs," an aide to Sadr who traveled to Qom said, requesting anonymity.

> The militia groups also agreed Sadr could have an augmented symbolic role leading them in opposition to the United States, the paramilitary sources said.

> "The resistance factions agreed Sadr would be the main voice in the resistance. The groups will in return support decisions he makes," said Nasr al-Shammari, a spokesman for the Iran-backed and U.S.-sanctioned Nujaba paramilitary faction.

> "We rejected Sadr's initial call to withdraw from protests and were angry with him," said Sheikh Shiyaa al-Bahadli, a tribal leader in Baghdad's poor Sadr City district.


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Message from Hong Kong to the Cleric in Iran.

Excerpt from Dark Web:

Move with great haste to promote the Thorium reactor.
It will provide great political benefits and force the US Secretary into a position he cannot easily defend.

Efforts are being cultivated in N Korea so that the same "olives" can be shown openly to the global market.

Tell the acolytes in Sweden to pursue their cause with vigor against those "Jinn" promoting the invasive mark.

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Donald Trump’s belligerent threats to Iran’s cultural sites are grotesque. The war crimes proposed by the US president would only strengthen his enemy’s clerical regime. theguardian.com/commentis…
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"Anti-Clericalism and the Spanish Civil War" | Libertarian Socialist Rants youtu.be/KgqoXU83v4g
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Iran cleric: People who are vaccinated for COVID have β€˜become homosexuals’ jpost.com/middle-east/ira…
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Iran cleric: People who are vaccinated for COVID have β€˜become homosexuals’ jpost.com/middle-east/ira…
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When frustration boils over: Iran is in turmoil but the clerics and their allies remain entrenched -- Huge protests demonstrate widespread anger at the regime economist.com/news/middle…
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