Chen Yuqi Puns

Does anybody have some insights into why China has failed to produce elite MS players in recent years ever since Chen Long and there seems to be no one else in the pipeline?

First and foremost I would like to say that I am NOT a vocal coach, I’m just a student. This I created this ranking to the best of my knowledge however there may be redditors who are more knowledgeable than me.

This ranking was created as objectively as possible based purely on each idols technical skill including their use of resonance, support, pitch, projection etc. so please do not start any fan wars or take this personally. I am not 100% familiar with every idol on this list so I am open to corrections.

I would love for this to be a discussion so if you think idols should be moved or added feel free to comment or if you just want me to clarify my reasoning. I hope you enjoy.

A++: Sohyang

A+: Ailee, Kyuhyun, Hyorin, Luna

A: Taeyeon, Wendy, Chen, Ryeowook

A-: Onew, Baekhyun, D.O, Wheein, Solar, Solji, Seunghee, Yesung

B+: Seohyun, Ningning, Kihyun, Taemin, Hwasa

B: Tiffany, Sunny, Jihyo, Soyou, Winter

B-: Seulgi, Jeongyeon

C+: Nayeon, Hyojung, Rosé

C: Joy, Lia, Jungkook, V, Sihyun, Karina, Yuqi

C-: Mina, Chaeyoung, Yeji, Minnie, Jimin, Mia, Yuri, Sooyoung, Jin, Minhyuk, Key, Yooa, Miyeon, Jooheon

D+: Tzuyu, Chaeryoung

D: Hyoyeon, Irene, Yuna, Soyeon, Soojin

D-: Yoona, Yeri, Sana, Ryujin, Hyungwon

E: Dahyun, Momo

F: Onda, Yiren

N/A: Shuhua

To give you a basic reference the C tier includes idols who have some sense of support however it’s not solidly developed and therefore shallow.

Groups included in this list (not all members):

Super Junior, SNSD, Red Velvet, Aespa, Twice, Itzy, Gidle, BTS, Monsta X, Shinee, Exo, Mamamoo, Everglow, Oh My Girl, Exid, Sistar

I’m more familiar with girl groups so the boy groups will be more likely to need adjustments.

Hey, last week I made this list for groups and I was asked if I could do the same for soloists so here it is. A few considerations:

1. Soloists pop from the ground so there will be many missing, just comment whoever and I'll include them (and preferably their former group name if there's one);
2. These number were taken in the spam of this last week -the ones I'll be adding;
3. This list contains both debuted soloists and group members turned soloists (mostly the latter, the scale is messed up). This is a long list so if you are looking for ex/group members I recommend going down to the 90k - 10k section*,* that's where most of them are;
4. As I was informed last time that the Melon likes system was introduced in the platform in 2015 so keep that in mind while reading as big hits from soloists prior to that won't have a number equivalent to the tracks sucess.

x 400k

• IU: Through the Night | 431,371

x 300k

• Ailee: I will go to you like the first snow | 334,296

x 200k

• Heize: You, Clouds, Rain | 289,517
• Lee Hi: Breathe | 265,025
• Zico: Any Song | 261,060 [Block B]
• Dean: D (full moon) | 245,480
• Taeyeon: Four Season | 240,774 [Girls' Generation]
• Jonghyun: Lonely | 233,547 [SHINee]
• G-Dragon: Untitled, 2014 | 229,007 [BIGBANG]
• Kyuhyun: At Gwanghwamun | 226,451 [Super Junior]
• Chanyeol: Stay With Me | 218,421 [EXO]
• D.O: That's Okay | 216,373 [EXO]
• Jennie: Solo | 208,032 [Blackpink]
• Baekhyun: Dream | 207,873 [EXO]
• Suzy: Dream | 207,873 [ex-Miss A]

x 100k

• Hwasa: Above Line | 195,778 [Mamamoo]
• Zion.T: Yanghwa BRDG | 186,349
• Mino: Fiancé | 184,545 [Winner]
• Taeyang: Eyes, Nose, Lips | 181,457 [BIGBANG]
• Chunha: Roller Coaster | 180,025 [ex-IOI]
• Eunji: For You with | 178,643 [Apink]
• Hyolyn: Blue Moon | 177,966 [ex-Sistar]
• Chen: Beautiful Goodbye | 163,895 [EXO]
• Sunmi: Gashina | 163,616 [ex-Wonder Girls]
• Rosé: On The Group | 145,780 [Blackpink]
• Joy: Introduce Me A Good Person | 122,273 [Red Velvet]
• Wheein: Goodbye | 111,574 [Mamamoo]
• Wendy: Spring Love | 107,655 [Red Velvet]
• Eric Nam: Spring Love | 107,655
• Jessi: Nunu Nana | 103,804

x 90k - 10k

• BoA: Only One | 97,807
• Suho: Let's Love | 93,627 [EXO]
• Bom: Spring | 92,568 [ex-2NE1]
• Somi: Dumb Dumb | 83,470 [ex-IOI]
• Seungri: 1, 2, 3 | 81,276 [ex-BIGBANG]
• Jaehwan: Begin Ag

I’ve been reading a lot of comments about China not being able to support the group or that C-trainees being better off with debut at home so I wanted to share some quick analysis of the state of c-ent and some misconceptions and potential future of these girls! I drafted this before the interim reveal but now that we see the interim results, the end conclusion is always vote your 1-pick! I’ve watched almost every girl produce series (except 48) and follow c-ent pretty closely and have been lurking here because the show has been making so little impact everywhere else.

Disclosure most the girls mentioned by me are people I’m fans of! But I may be a bit harsh. And I had voted for XZY (pick), alternated SRQ/Fuya/Wen Zhe after. Now I’m not so sure..

Misconceptions - regulations will limit the purchasing power of fanbases. Fans will find ways to support (splitting up orders, new fansites, etc) and you can’t control individual purchases either. The main crackdown has been on “behaviour” of both idols (idols with bad pasts) and fanbases (cyber-bullying, coordianted attacks). The biggest idol hits are China’s own survival shows with no yogurt/paid voting. Shows seems to struggle without the hype so if anything C-girls going back will struggle to find a platform for exposure until shows find a way. But for kpop, with just recent kpop purchases, Taeyeon, Karina bars raised $$$ (20k+ orders - aespa got like almost 100k among all the girls) and Lisa’s bar still figured out how to make their push. Same with BTS, NCT, etc. For domestic celebs (actors/male idols) fans still find ways to support endorsements. It’s things like rankings on weibo which take a hit so small idols may lose some momentum. IQIYI and Tencent may lay off the idol shows (ie Stage Boom with Yuqi/Pinky, etc is a flop without voting) further limiting domestic idol activities. People say those broadcasters use produce shows to foster their own actors which is also another reason so many go into acting.

Idoldom is still in its infancy in China. The money and longevity is in acting or a legitimate singer/variety host. Pretty much all idols go into acting. Even Meng Meiqi (PD101C, ex-Cosmic) who actually had GP recognition (and decent OST hit) splits time doing acting. And she’s a rare idol getting good music gigs with Tencent and Yuehua support. The only other example is Kun from Idol Producer but he is an male idol and even he hosted on Running Man China now for longevity that. And to get a good va

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The 26 year old currently has a world ranking of 35 (highest of 32). I doubt he was on many people's radar until Momota's assassination at the Olympics. I like most people assumed it was just a lucky blow to the out of sorts number 1 but watching him the last few month it seems that perhaps he's worthy of a higher ranking and if he keeps this form up we could even see him in the top 10.

Outside of beating Momota, in the brief 2020 and 2021 season he's beaten Chou Tien Chen, Lee Zii Jia, Wang Tzu Wei, and taken other top 10 players like Ginting and Shi Yuqi to 3 games.

Beyond that he has an incredibly relentless energy on court, attacking non stop. Even in his losses I don't think it's ever easy for his opponents.

Yes he's also lost out recently to some lower ranked players but on the whole it seems everything is on the up. What are your thoughts? Is he perhaps just riding a temporary wave of confidence? Is it just the covid effect giving him an opening at players still waking up?

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

(The advice flair works with this post I hope?)

Every time one of those "what are some idol names you don’t know how pronounce" posts comes up, I die a little inside from the sheer amount of Chinese (when I use this I’m referring to all of Greater China because it’s easier that way) idols’ names in the comments. So, here’s me attempting to teach y’all how to pronounce these names (with audio recordings!). (I mean I could’ve just done the audio recordings but that would make this post boring.) (If y’all have any requests just leave them in the comments and I’ll add them to the post.) (These are all Mandarin names because my Cantonese level is: nei5hou2.)

This post has absolutely no order and I’m just doing whatever idol comes to mind

Let’s start with the ones that confounds us all: Chou Tzuyu / 周子瑜 / Zhōu Ziyú. Taiwan uses Wade-Giles more often than Pinyin, which is why I think people get confounded by her name.

• "Chou" is basically the name "Zoey" without the "ey" part
• "Tzu" is like you’re saying "zzz"
• "Yu" — say "you" but then slide so quickly into a "ee" sound that the "oo" kinda disappears
• Voice recording

Xiao Dejun / 肖德俊 / Xiào Déjùn (aka Xiaojun)

• "Xiao" is "she~ow"
• "De" is like saying "duh" but with your mouth shaped into the "ehh" shape
• "Jun" is "jween" basically
• Voice recording

Huang Renjun / 黄仁俊 / Huáng Rénjùn how Renjun is written in Hangul (런쥔) annoys me to no end because imo 렌쥔 would make so much more sense and is closer to the actual pronunciation)

• "Huang" is "hwang"
• "Ren" is very confusing because the "r" sound varies quite a bit. You can say it exactly like it’s spelt — with a hard R — or like "zen" but with a a very soft "z" sound
• "Jun" is "jween"
• Voice recording

Song Yuqi / 宋雨琦 / Sòng Yǔqí

• "Song" is "so + ng" NOT "song"
• "Yu" is "yoo~ee" (see Tzuyu for more explanation)
• "Qi" is "chee"
• Voice recording

Zhong Chenle / 钟辰乐 / Zhōng Chénlè

• "Zhong" is like the "jong" in Jonghyun but with the x in xylophone instead of the beginning j
• "Chen" is a mix of "chen" and "chin" so it’s like "chihn"
• "Le" is "luh"
• Voice recording

Xu Minghao / 徐明浩 / Xú Mínghào (aka THE8)

• "Xu" is like "yu" (see Tzuyu and Yuqi) but with a "sh" sound at the beginning — so "shoo~ee" sorta
• "Ming" — exactly like how it loo

This post is really really really LONG and I decided to do it because I was curious to see how many groups debut nowadays as compared to during the start of kpop.

This write up contains the number of groups that debuted each year including solo debuts and the groups that disbanded. I'll be starting from 2nd gen specifically 2003 with the debut of TVXQ and then going to 2007 then so on.

2003

In 2003, 9 groups debuted 8 boy groups and 1 girl group, 14 people debuted solo 8 women and 6 women and 5 groups disbanded. 2003 gave us TVXQ and the debuts of now iconic female soloists gummy and hyori.

2007

In 2007, 16 groups debuted 6 girlgroups and 10 boy groups, 7 people debuted solo 5 female and 2 male and 3 groups debuted. 2007 was arguably the starting point of gg's in 2nd gen it gave us snsd, kara and wonder girls, boygroups like ft island and huge soloists like k will

2008

In 2008, 11 groups debuted 1 girlgroup and 10 boygroups, 9 soloists debuted 5 female and 4 males and 4 groups debuted. 2008 gave us boygroups like 2PM and 2AM, shinee and U-KISS and soloists like IU.

2009

In 2009, 15 groups debuted,8 girlgroups and 6 boy groups, 11 soloists debuted 6 female and 5 male and 2 groups disbanded. 2009 gave us groups like beast, 2ne1, tara, after school, mblaq, f(x), 4minute and soloists like seo in guk.

2010

In 2010, 26 groups debuted 8 girlgroups and 18 boygroups, 12 soloists debuted 4 female and 8 male and groups disbanded. 2010 gave us groups like cnblue, sistar, girl's day, nine muses, miss A, orange caramel, and soloists like hyuna and jay park.

2011

In 2011, 26 groups debuted 9 girl groups and 17 boygroups, 9 soloists debuted 2 female and 7 male and 2 groups disbanded. 2011 gave us groups like apink, block b, troublemaker, stellar, brave girls

2012

In 2012, 46 groups debuted 17 girlgroups and 29 boygroups, 13 soloists debuted 8 female and 5 male and 6 groups disbanded. 2012 gave us groups like AOA, BTOB, EXID, EXO, crayon pop, nuest, vixx and soloists like lee hi, ailee and loco

2013

In 2013, 22 groups debuted 9 girlgroups and 13 boygroups, 13 soloists debuted 4 female and 8 male and 5 groups disbanded. 2013 gave us groups like BTS, Ladies code and soloists like CL, eric name, sunmi.

2014

In 2014, 44 groups debuted 11 girlgroups and 33 boygroups, 22 soloists debuted 13 female and 9 male and 5 groups disbanded. 2014 gave us groups like red velvet, got7, akmu, winner, mamamoo, lovelyz, laboum and soloists

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Written on 8/3/21; final edit made end of 8/8/21

 

As someone who follows China's Olympics closely and as China’s key events wind down, I thought I'd share my analysis on China's performance. I'm going to break down China's competitive events into categories below and give my view on where they've overperformed / underperformed. Focus will be on Gold Medals as it gets too complicated to analyze Silvers and Bronzes too.

 

#Category 1: Sports that China Dominates

These are the sports that China expects to win close to all of the golds. Any loss of a gold medal would be considered an upset.

 

Diving (8 Possible Gold Medals)

 

Events won:

Men’s Synchronized Springboard

Women’s Synchronized Springboard

Women’s Synchronized Platform

Women’s Individual Springboard

Men’s Individual Springboard

Women’s Individual Platform

Men’s Individual Platform

 

Events lost:

Men’s Synchronized Platform (Silver)

 

Result: 7 Golds won; 1 lost

 

Near-miss: Men’s Synchronized Platform – China was leading up until a crucial error on the fourth dive. If they had not committed the unexpected mistake, this would have easily been China’s Gold.

 

Analysis: On Par. While the Silver in Men’s Synchronized Platform was a near-miss and an upset, the overall performance so far is within expectations. Many do not know that while all China’s divers are favorites, the female divers are considered “safer bets” than the males. To get challenged in the Platform events was expected on the men’s side, mainly from GB with Tom Daley. If China were to lose the last Gold in Diving, this would move to “Underperformance”. Special shoutout here to Quan Hongchan for her virtually-perfect execution to break the WR set by my favorite diver Chen Ruolin back in 2008 - at only 14 years old!

 

Table Tennis (5 Possible Gold Medals)

 

Events Won:

Men’s Singles

Women’s Singles

Women’s Team

Men’s Team

 

Events Lost:

Mixed Doubles (Silver)

 

Result: 4 Golds won; 1 lost

 

Analysis: On Par / Slight Underperformance. I’m reluctant to call the Mixed Doubles loss a “Near-miss” as they were thoroughly outplayed by Japan in three of the sets. I also don’t view it as a full-on “Underperformance” as many think it was, considering that Mixed Doubles was an event newly added this year and Japan ca

Here’s an interesting and fun question. I’m a new fan so I can do this relatively easily but which idols in groups you don’t follow do you know the name of just because they’ve been mentioned so many times on social media threads or other convos? I only follow NCT rn so I can do it for every other popular group. I didn’t do BTS or Blackpink because they’re super popular and I can name all members without following them.

This isn’t people you can recognize just people you can name because they’re mentioned so much haha

Boy Groups

Stray Kids - Felix, Bang Chan

Ateez - Seonghwa (?), San

TXT - Huening Kai, Beomgyu (?)

Enhypen - Ni-ki, Jake (?)

Seventeen - Dino, The8, Hoshi

EXO - Kai, Baehkyun, Chen, Lay

Girl Groups

Red Velvet - Wendy, Yeri

Mamamoo - Solar, Hwasa

Twice - Jihyo, Tzuyu

(G)-IDLE - Yuqi

Everglow - Yiren

Itzy - Lia, Ryujin

aespa - Karina

Anyone who isn’t a NCTzen or a casual follower of NCT, I’d love to hear which NCT members’ names do you hear mentioned a lot without knowing anything about them?

Do your worst!

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂

It really does, I swear!

They’re on standbi

Pilot on me!!

Nothing, he was gladiator.

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

inspired by this post

OKAY very scuffed ill probably forget some:

girls groups:

-twice

-blackpink

-itzy

-aespa

-mamamoo

-lightsum

-iz*one

-weeekly

-red velvet

-clc

-everglow

-loona

-g(i)-dle

-snsd

-aoa

-pristin

-stayc

-dreamcatcher

-fromis_9

-gfriend

-purple kiss

-f(x)

-wonder girls

-ioi

-viva

-brave girls

-2ne1

-apink

-cherry bullet

-weki meki

-gugudan

-secret number

-oh my girl

total:31

boy groups

-enhypen

-stray kids

-nct(nct u, nct dream, nct 127, wayv)

-p1harmony

-bts

-txt

-ab6ix

-astro

-2am

-2pm

-got7

-oneus

-A.C.E

-the rose

-day6

-golden child

-justb

-e'last

-b1a4

-the boyz

-ikon

-sf9

-shinee

-seventeen(how did i almost forget them theyre literally one of my ults)

-treasure

-nu'est

-exo

-ateez

-pentagon

-cix

-lucy

-big bang

-super junior

-mcnd

-super m

total:35(39 if we split nct)

soloists/duos:
-somi
-chungha
-woodz
-hyuna
-jessi
-wonho
-sandeul
-jo yuri
-wheein
-dawn
-sunmi
-taeyeon
-iu
-woosung
-akmu
-eaj
-youngk
-rose
-jennie
-lisa
-jeon soyeon
-yuqi
-taemin
-baekhyun
-key
-d.o
-luna
-cl
-junny
-henry
-seori
-eric nam
-jay park
-agust d
-dj hyo
-jackson wang
-chen
-natty
-sam kim
-zico
-lee hi
-ailee
-alexa
-jyp
-rain
-kwon eun bi
-hanbin
-crush
-yugyeom
-bibi

total: i think 50? i might have miscounted

and kard

WOWOW that took up a lot of time, but i realized i know A LOT more soloists than i thought LOL

I won't be doing that today!

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When I got home, they were still there.

What did 0 say to 8 ?

" Nice Belt "

So What did 3 say to 8 ?

" Hey, you two stop making out "