Sleep training a baby with infant breath holding spells?

Baby is 4 months old. He used to sleep super well. Would take last bottle around 9:30, went down in the bassinet until 3ish, had a bottle and then went down again until 7/8.

He started rolling about 2.5 weeks ago so I stopped swaddling. At the same time he started waking up almost hourly. Would scream the second I put him down in the bassinet. I’m losing it and would really like to sleep train but he also recently started having β€œinfant breath holding spells” he’s cried so hard that he forgets to breathe and goes unconscious. It’s awful. Is there something I can do to sleep train without too much crying? Any advice?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/londonautumn
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My baby just had a breath holding spell and I swear I almost died.

TW: Possible injury or health complication, but I think my child is fine.

Anyway, pretty much what it says in the title. She’s 17 months old and was crying because I shut the fridge door before she could climb in there to mess around (a favorite pass time of hers), and I went on to put a few dishes away, and noticed she was quiet.

Her face was still contorted in a cry, but no sound. I watched her stumble into the cupboard, and then fall straight back. No sound, she was turning blue, and I could see the panic in her face as she grew still. I started screaming and crying thinking that she was dying and choking, and my husband grabbed our de-choking device while I tried to scoop out what was in her throat. There was nothing there.

She quickly started breathing after that and crying as I held her on the floor. I couldn’t figure out what caused it, if it wasn’t something she was choking on.

My FIL was standing in the room with our 3 year-old while it all happened, keeping her calm. After I had calmed down he said that he knew of little kids who would cry so hard that they would hold their breath and pass out. I quickly looked it up and everything my daughter displayed matches what it says online for breath-holding spells.

I never knew those were a thing. I thought my daughter was either choking to death or having a seizure. I’ve never heard or seen anything like it.

Now I’m rocking her in her room since she quickly went back to her happy self, but I’m still low-key freaking out.

Has anyone else had this happen with their child?

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Breath-Holding Spells and convulsions

Does anybody have any experience with breath-holding spells that lead to convulsions? My best friends daughter is 10 months old (she doesn’t have social media) and her daughter just had a breath holding spell so badly that she convulsed for a minute and a half and the ambulance had to be called. My LO is 17 months and I’ve never experienced this so I don’t have any advice to give my best friend of 20 years. Does anyone have any tips to help make them breath in or to not get that far into it? Literally any advice on this topic is greatly appreciated because we both have no idea what to do and we both are in areas without mom groups.

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Sandifer's syndrome vs. Breath holding spells

I am a 39 y/o female seeking advice for my 10 week old male infant. He is 22 inches long, 9lbs 12 oz. Birth weight was 6lbs 5oz 20 in.

I am 5'1" and currently 114 lbs. My weight during pregnancy was 133 lbs. I was a well controlled gestational diabetic not on any medication. I was diagnosed with PCOS and my son was conceived through IVF. Our embryo was genetically tested and found to be normal. We also did NIPT testing which came back normal. My son's birth was uncomplicated as was my labor.

My son does not have an official diagnosis, but the doctors are thinking breath holding spells ( which they admitted he was too young to have) and/or Sandifer's syndrome ( they think he has silent reflux). He was ruled out for siezures by a 20 minute in- hospital EEG and had an episode during the EEG.

Since about 5 weeks he has these episodes where his cry will crescendo until he suddenly stops crying and remains in an arched/stiff position with his mouth open, eyes shut tight, and elbows pulled in or with arms approaching his face. During this time he does not breathe and begins to turn cyanotic. After about 10-15 seconds of no breathing he gasps ( his breaths remind me of agonal breathing) for air for another 10-15 seconds, at this point he starts to regain a normal color.Β  As he regains his color, he goes limp and opens his eyes- his eyes will deviate towards the left or bounce from left to right. He remains dazed, and after about 20-30 seconds his breathing returns to a normal rate and he refocuses his gaze. Once he is out of his episode his whole demeanor changes- usually super calm but sometimes he remembers he was upset and starts to cry again- but not into another episode.

In the last 3 days, he's been waking up screaming like he's in pain and going into these episodes. In the hospital his heart rate and oxygen levels would drop down to the 80's until his episode was over. His EKG was normal and the only thing awry was his potassium which was 0.1mEq/L higher than the normal value.

Currently, the docs ordered pepcid and said it could take up to 4 weeks to reduce silent reflux. So far, there is no plan other that to wean him off the pepcid if it doesn't work. They also said to start rescue breathing on him if he holds his breath for 30 seconds or longer...which was super disconcerting. I want to know what is going on with him and I definitely do not want to have a scenario where I have to perform cpr on my child.

I've seen videos of children who have

... keep reading on reddit ➑

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Breath Holding Spells

Anyone else’s baby do this? My baby did it for the first time last night but I was able to get her to breathe by blowing in her face. I’m going to take her to the doctor. I suspected she was prone to these because she always let out these very long cries that seemed like she would never inhale again, but last night she went full silent cry for way too long and I had to blow in her face hard 3 times before she inhaled again. I’m so scared of these. Anyone have experience and can commiserate?

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Any idea how does Piracetam help against breath holding spells?

The question is given. Piracetam is strong against breath holding spells. I am interested in the underlying mechanism(s).

Here is the Wikipedia article on the spells: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breath-holding_spell. Please note the anger, frustration, injury, painful events, low CO2 levels, anemia, and possibly the prolonged QT syndrome.

I have read somewhere that piracetam improves mitochondrial function in the presence of H2O2. I interpret this as piracetam disables feedback inhibition of H2O2 on energy generation. The question is then why those precipiating events result in excess H2O2?

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Breath Holding Spell or something else?

I have 10 month old identical twin boys. The larger one is always happy, babbling, and in general a big ball of giggles. His brother has always been a little more needy and somber. He doesn’t smile as much and we sort of have to β€˜try’ to make him laugh most of the time. Our pediatrician told us not to compare them as they are different people so I try to remain aware of that.

Anyways, something happened yesterday and today that really freaked me out. I am calling the doctor at 8am in the morning but I’m curious to see other parent’s experiences. Yesterday my baby was sitting and fell forward and bonked his nose on the carpet (not hard). He started crying loudly so I picked him up to soothe him and he arched his back, stiffened, and opened his mouth like he was screaming but nothing came out. A few seconds later I pulled him toward my chest and he went limp. I nervously said his name a couple times and jiggled him and then he came out of his β€˜spell’. I thought I was overreacting and chalked it up to a weird tantrum until I happened again today. My baby pinched his finger and screamed bloody murder so I picked him up and he immediately stiffened, arched his back, opened his mouth as of to scream, and then his eyes rolled and he melted into me. I then firmly said his name and jostled him and he immediately β€˜came to’.

We think he did this after becoming extremely upset and just passed out from frustration but it was really upsetting. He’s wearing his Owlet tonight and I’m contacting his pediatrician ASAP in the morning but I’m still really nervous something is wrong. We googled and it sounds like Breath Holding Spell. Has anyone else experienced something similar?

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Breath Holding Spells... any advice?

My son started having breath holding spells in January this year and has had 5 since. It usually happens when he’s tired and gets mildly hurt. He responds by sucking in a ton of air, not breathing out and passing out. He comes round in about 30 seconds but not before his eyes roll back and his lips turn blue. He’s been tested for anemia and the doctor/internet says he just had to grow out of it. But man, is it stressful and heart breaking to watch your toddler pass out!

Anyone else’s child have this? When did they grow out of it? Or was there anything you did to make them better? I hate rushing to his side every time he gets the smallest bump, but I don’t really see a way around it...

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Breath holding spells and an inability to cry it out.

So the title says it. My son has breath holding spells, basically if he cries to hard, gets scared, or gets hurt, he will go unconscious and stop breathing. Super scary. Super not able to let him cry and scream for hours in his bed, after he has a spell he can have another and another, and generally is very scared and upset after having one, twitches and jerks while having one, and has an excess amount of saliva afterwards. Just a recipe for disaster.

He is seven months old, exclusively breast fed, and has always woken up what seems like a hundred times a night. I am pregnant, due in December, and I covet sleep right now, also this baby needs to be sleeping before the other baby is born πŸ˜…

Can you sleep train without crying it out? Any tips, tricks, success stories, anything would be greatly appreciated.

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2 year old had a breath holding spell last night

He got real mad, did the "silent scream" thing that kids do, then fell over and appeared to have a seizure. We took him to the ER and he was diagnosed as having a breath holding spell. He's fine now.

It was just terrifying. It was the most terrifying experience of my whole life. While he was lying on the floor, unconscious and body rigid and turning blue, so many thoughts ran through my mind. So much blame and guilt and fear and panic. The horrible feeling of not knowing what to do and not being able to help. I had yelled at him, that's why he started crying to begin with. So if he got hurt from this, it was definitely my fault.

We're all okay now. I just hope this never happens again. I never want to relive that panic.

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Toddler Sleep and Breath Holding Spells

I'm having an issue with my 16 month old and would like some tips. In the past two weeks she had a significant sleep regression, she goes to sleep just fine at 7pm but has overnight wake ups and wakes up for the morning sometime between 330 and 430 which is too early and take some nap at 11 am. If we let her cry a bit she'll go back to sleep until maybe 5 but usually not. We could let her figure it out on her own longer before checking on her but there are two issues.

  1. I don't think she'll be understand a wake-up light since she doesn't talk, we have a hatch so we could try if people have had it work with a kid that age.

  2. The main issue is that a few weeks ago she started having breath holding spells when she gets upset where she'll pass out and stop breathing for a bit. We talked to her pediatrician and he says it's just something that happens. Part of my concern is if we let her cry in there too long she'll start having a spell when we're not around. We have a video monitor but I don't want her to get so mad she passes out. Has anyone dealt with something similar?

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The scene with Agnes in Despicable Me (2010) where she holds her breath till she passes out is based on a true condition called BHS, or Breath Holding Spells with one such case recorded in the UK
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Breath Holding Spells

On March second my four month old was nursing and randomly began to cry (I think he’s getting teeth)

He startedcrying so hard that he went silent and he just stayed on an exhale breath, not breathing he passed out and didn’t breathe for maybe 10-15 seconds. He then regained consciousness and went to sleep. I called the doctor immediately and he said it’s probably breath holding spells and that this is not an emergency. (IT FELT LIKE AN EMERGENCY)

It happened again March 4th and I took him to the doctor. With little information the doctor sent me home after over an hour of questions and an exam for my little guy. He did however say that this is the youngest case that he’s had and everything I read online says that this starts at 6 months.

I just need some information, some peace of mind. There are a million things running through my mind, that the internet doesn’t seem to address.

Is my son okay having these episodes this young? Is it likely that he will have them for a long time because he started so young? Does he have a really bad case? It goes away by age 6 (or so) does it usually last for that many years? I have read of a few cases of children dying, what do I need to be doing?

This is so scary for me. I would absolutely appreciate any information that anyone thinks is helpful. Also any stories of recovery from this. Details. Anything!!

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β€œI mutter the spell under my breath”

As a DM, how do you rule this? I’ve heard some argue that a sleight of hand check should be made, while others say that the person would know a spell is being cast.

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Breath holding spells?

Son is 15mo for reference. Last night I thought my son was choking on something after he tripped and fell. I did the nessecary procedure and he was fine. Today I thought he was doing the same thing but he had not been eating anything. He just fell over again and was upset. Apparently he's just holding his breath during a long cry and passing out for a second. Anyone else have experience with this? It's pretty traumatic. Pardon the grammar and brevity, on my phone.

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Breath holdings spells.

Hi everyone

I have a 1 year old son, he's sweet, gentle and smiles alot, loves to hug and kiss and he's generally very calm but has been showing signs of a strong personality in the trend of "this is mine and you can't have it". He also has this thing called "breath holding spells"..

Does anyone have advice for me on how to deal with a child who suffers from BHS? And how I can explain to my inlaws (I haven't told them yet because.. reasons) that my son is not dying and he doesn't need extra pampering because that might just make it worse?

I'm mainly unsure on how to keep my calm when he has a spell going on.. It's involuntary for now but I'm worried what will happen when he might do it on purpose? Can I even avoid a spell? How do I even respond when it happens (besides sheer panic the first time I saw it)?

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πŸ“…︎ Oct 20 2017
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Breath holding spell

2 year old had what looked like a seizure a few days ago. After evaluation, it was a breath holding spell. It was set off by a tantrum.

I'm still a wreck from it, but trying to move forward. Tonight he was throwing a tantrum and I was getting anxious it was gonna happen again.

Do you have experience with this? I don't want to be afraid to reprimand him of he needs it... but right now I'm terrified of seeing his lips go blue again... Anyways just looking for... something...

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Breath holding spells

Just wanted to put this out there in case any fellow dads experience this.

Breath holding

It just happened to my 3 year old for the second time after hurting himself (scooter accident!) The first time it happened was terrifying since I'd never heard of it before! All good now with some special medicine, or what you might know as ice cream.

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i just realized luz's invisibilty glyph looks like a helium atom. most likely because it is a gas atom and the glyph/spell requires the user to hold their breath to remain invisible
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πŸ‘€︎ u/dreamerhorizons
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Breath holding spells

My son is 14 MO and started having cyanotic crying spells around 9 MO. They used to happen very infrequently but we are just getting into the temper tantrum age and they are starting to happen more and I expect it to get worse during age 2-3. He does something similar to this video, where he cries so hard he involuntarily holds his breath and his lips turn blue. His body also gets really stiff. He has yet to pass out although I worry it will happen with us.

As a newborn he had awful colic, which I believe was caused by overstimulation, and the only way I could get him to calm down was to swaddle him and sit in a dark room with him with white noise before he eventually would stop screaming. He grew out of his colic at 3 months but sometimes I wonder if the colic and the breath holding spells are somehow related? He also is a terrible sleeper and will wake up at 4 am demanding to be held even though he naps on his own and falls asleep at bedtime on his own. Re-sleep training has resulted in an overtired baby who cries for > 2 hours.

Maybe I'm grasping at straws but I can't help but think that these are all related. Anyone else have a similar experience? Other than remaining calm, is there anything we can get through the spells? They freak me out every time.

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Day 5 !!!!! Posting this everyday until the porn watching, do nothing SEC actually does something. I'm not holding my breath, but it does show how useless and hated the crooked SEC really is in America. Feel free to share far and wide amongst all of social media. And f$$k MSM!
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Dragon's Breath is still one of my favorite spells
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Shallow breathing/holding your breath?

Does anyone else compulsively breath really shallow/hold your breath without realizing? I just noticed this for the first time ever. I don't know what made me notice it. I guess I'm general I have been working toward being more grounded whenever possible. When I'm thinking about my breathing it can be normal. But the second I stop thinking it becomes really shallow or I'll completely hold my breath like I forgot to breath. Of course I know this now that I've started to become concious at times and catch myself doing it and try to correct it.. This probably sounds really wierd.

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Day 2 !!!!! Posting this everyday until the porn watching, do nothing SEC actually does something. I'm not holding my breath, but it does show how useless and hated the crooked SEC really is in America. Feel free to share far and wide amongst all of social media.
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[OC][ART] Homebrew Spell - Dying Breath v.redd.it/i1p188qdu6281
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Holding your breath for around 30 seconds make your boner go away

Now, this is something I do, am not sure if this works for everyone but it is useful for me so I thought that I'd share

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Breath holding spell nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e…
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Day 4 !!!!! Posting this everyday until the porn watching, do nothing SEC actually does something. I'm not holding my breath, but it does show how useless and hated the crooked SEC really is in America. Feel free to share far and wide amongst all of social media. And f$$k MSM!
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πŸ‘€︎ u/NewEraInvesting10
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Mourning Breath: A ghastly spell for necromancy enthusiasts
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I like to think that they were holding their breath the whole time
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Does anyone use Bad Breath or Berserk spells?

I know that Bad Breath is good for Rufus but I always take him out in about 90 seconds or less.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Fancy_Carr
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So one of my players have a spell that reverses the effect of a potion. They just casted in on a potion of fire breath. Wtf is the opposite of fire breath?!

It doesn't have to be bad. But I also don't want it to be water or frost breath, but if that's my only option ;(

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πŸ‘€︎ u/YourFriendlyDM2
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Does blowing out a candle with breath effect spell?

Baby witch here, was wondering if I need a snuffer or is simply blowing the candle out with my breath is okay instead?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/moon1250
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Anyone else feel like the market is holding its breath?

We are crabbing along unable to breakout upward. My worry is that everyone is scared of a market crash and unfavorable market conditions in general, so any more bad news might send us down below $40k (USD; sorry) again....

Hopefully it's just the pessimist in me, and I do plan on holding long term, but I don't want to have to hold at a loss for very long.

Any thoughts?

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I hate this. Holding RMB doesn't work for me... I guess it's because Logitech uses shitty switches in their mice. Guess I'll have to breath into it for 3 days for it to work again... v.redd.it/iour22kts4c81
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Avg14yoGirl
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TIL Apnea is a sport that involves various athletic feats that test someone's ability to go without oxygen. The record for breath-holding with oxygen beforehand is 24 minutes 33 seconds. Without pre-oxygen, it is 11 minutes 54 seconds. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sta…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/SonOfQuora
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And then she sped off holding her breath
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When holding your breath is safer than breathing…..

Because the sadness and loneliness takes my breath away. It’s crushing. I have to tell myself to breathe sometimes to get myself through the excruciating pain of the heartbreak. There will be no happy ending. No waking up the next morning. There’s just emptiness. No good morning. No good night. What’s for lunch. How are the kids. The mundane that was exchanged. Oh to be standing in your presence again where breathing was effortless. You….us…was effortless. And now it takes so much energy.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Blueyedone0626
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No money!! Going crazy.. wishing for good vibes and a magical opiate fairy or a money tree to sprout up in the yard but I ain't holding my breath! (Not bumming)

Saturday morning was good but it's not looking good for this evening/Sunday! I wish I was allowed to work!!!!

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Breath of Life, a cool spell I cam up with!
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Was anyone else holding their breath when JJ came in yesterday?

After the MSU game I was definitely a bit nervous when JJ was in but he did great in the few snaps he got. That pass to Roman Wilson was a beauty. Glad he could get some reps in The Game.

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Breath holding spells

anyone else have a child that does this? my 18 month year old will hold his breath until he passes it out. started at 11 months old and its absolutely terrifying...

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πŸ“…︎ Mar 20 2016
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