President Truman reads a citation for one of the four naval officers he decorated aboard the captured German submarine U-2513 (Type XXI U-boat) at the Naval submarine base in Key West, Florida (December 5, 1947)
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German submarine type XXI , art by 800tonnes.com
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Revell U-2540 type XXI submarine 1:144 scale w/ interior reddit.com/gallery/pct9pm
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U-2513 a rare type XXI uboat that was the first submarine to carry a president and travel underwater. Angered me when I found out that it was sunk as target practice instead of museum ship
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The French submarine Roland Morillot (S613) formerly the German Kriegsmarine Type XXI submarine U-2518. She was commissioned on the 4th of November 1944 then Surrendered to the Royal Navy on the 8th of May and handed over to the Marine Nationale in February 1946.
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German Type XXI submarine U-2502 under cannon fire from an RAF De Havilland Mosquito, Kattegat, 1944/45
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German Type XXI submarine U-2502 under cannon fire from an RAF De Havilland Mosquito, Kattegat, 1944/45
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German Type XXI submarine U-2502 under cannon fire from an RAF De Havilland Mosquito, Kattegat, 1944/45
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High speed Japanese Submarine No.71 launching at Kure Naval Arsenal. Aug 29, 1938. Fastest sub until the Type XXI [600x300]
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The USS Gudgeon,a Tang-class submarine.The Tang-class submarines were the first submarines designed and built by the United States Navy after WWII. They incorporated the best features of the high-speed German Type XXI U-boat and the venerable U.S. Navy fleet submarine.
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The French submarine Roland Morillot (S613) formerly the German Kriegsmarine Type XXI submarine U-2518. She was commissioned on the 4th of November 1944 then Surrendered to the Royal Navy on the 8th of May and handed over to the Marine Nationale in February 1946.
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German Type XXI submarine U-2502 under cannon fire from an RAF De Havilland Mosquito, Kattegat, 1944/45
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[4430 x 5635]U-3008 (German Type XXI) at Wilhelmshaven, between 2 and 21 June 1945. The two Type IX submarines with the boat are U-806 (far left) and U-155. The light cruiser NΓΌrnberg is in the far left center.
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German Type XXI submarine U-2502 under cannon fire from an RAF De Havilland Mosquito, Kattegat, 1944/45
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Type XXI submarines - Wonder U-boat of German Navy (1943-1945) youtube.com/watch?v=9C3AZ…
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[4430 x 5635]U-3008 (German Type XXI) at Wilhelmshaven, between 2 and 21 June 1945. The two Type IX submarines with the boat are U-806 (far left) and U-155. The light cruiser NΓΌrnberg is in the far left center.
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Type XXI submarines - Wonder U-boat of German Navy (1943-1945) youtube.com/watch?v=9C3AZ…
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Type XXI submarines - Wonder U-boat of German Navy (1943-1945) youtube.com/watch?v=9C3AZ…
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Type XXI submarines - Wonder U-boat of German Navy (1943-1945) youtube.com/watch?v=9C3AZ…
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Why no submarines in a Battlefield? Image: Unterseeboot type XXI.
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[5076 x 5986]German type XXI submarine launching, at the Blohm & Voss Shipyard, Hamburg, in 1944-45. imgur.com/waAXGSv
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The French submarine Roland Morillot (S613) shown after her first French refit circa 1950. Formerly the German Type XXI submarine U-2518, she was ceded to France after the war.

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The French submarine Roland Morillot (S613) shown after her first French refit circa 1950. Formerly the German Type XXI submarine U-2518, she was ceded to France after the war. reddit.com/r/submarines/c…
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The Admiral Scheer lays capsized in Kiel near two unfinished German submarines of the XXI series in Kiel, in May 1945.[2740 Γ— 2216]
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[5994 x 4894] Type XXI submarines under construction, circa mid-August 1944. U-3511 is in the left foreground, U-3510 is in center, and U-3512 is at right, Schichau Shipyard, Danzig imgur.com/OD2UcsI
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[6154 x 5044]French submarine Roland Morillot (S-613) shown in 1950. She was formerly a Type XXI U-boat, U-2518. imgur.com/WCOxfTc
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The Admiral Scheer lays capsized in Kiel near two unfinished German submarines of the XXI series in Kiel, in May 1945.[2740 Γ— 2216]
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WWII --- German "Type XXI" submarines under construction (Bremen, Germany - 1945) [1312x734]
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Type XXI submarine, The Elektroboot
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German submarines of the 11th Flotilla of Kriegsmarine in Bergen, Norway, April 1945. In the photo's center is U-2511 "Elektroboote", one of the only Type XXI to conduct a war patrol. [1024 Γ— 642]
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What killed the "Fleet Submarine"? - How revolutionary were the Type XXI U-boats to submarine design and doctrine? Were there any Allied Equivalents?

First time posting a question here. Here goes.

So I know that most submarines of WW2 were more along the lines of a submersible, where they would spend most of the time on the surface, then only submerge for attack or to evade detection. To my knowledge, the US fleet boats and the U-boats all did this, with the exception of the Elektroboats, which was designed to operate largely submerged. After the US studied the Type XXI boats, they developed the GUPPY upgrades for their own Gato, Balao, and Tench fleet boats. Soviet post-war subs were basically Type XXI copies.

How much of a "shock" to submarine design/doctrine was the Type XXI? It seems like right afterwards most nations immediately abandoned the old "submersible" design to pursue the Type XXI design. Did it really render the old "Fleet Boat" obsolete that quickly?

Also, were there any equivalent allied projects? While I understand that the U-boat war in the Atlantic was a vastly different battlefield than the submarine warfare waged against Japan, I'd think that the allies would have also liked a submarine with capabilities similar to the Type XXI. After all, they did largely move to that sort of design after the war. Was the US not interested because of the vastness of the Pacific? The lack of proper Anti-Submarine operations by Japan? Production concerns?

tl;dr What killed the "Fleet Submarine"? Was the Type XXI really so revolutionary that everyone abandoned the Fleet Submarine idea?

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The expanse around the wreck of Type XXI submarine U-2513
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The Hajen class (Shark class) was a submarine class built by Kockums and used by the Swedish navy. The design was influenced by the German Type XXI submarine class. A total of six submarines were built in 1954-1958 and were kept in service until 1980.
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German "Type XXI" submarines under construction (Bremen, Germany - 1945)
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WWII --- German "Type XXI" submarines under construction (Bremen, Germany - 1945) [1312x734] /u/KazCarpent
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[Breguet] Type XXI 3817ST imgur.com/a/bzGAeT0
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Doenitz plays with her RC Type XXI
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[WTS] Breguet Type XXI Flyback Chronograph
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To people who say U-2501 is not a type XXI, here is an image of the U-2501 type XXI in another game
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[2048x1152] USS Harry S. Truman as seen from a Greek Type 214 submarine during a wargame
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