Timurids - Dev Renaissance or Wait

just started a game as Timmy and am about 4 years out from integrating my vassals, the Renaissance has just spawned. I know usually, outside of Europe one should dev it but with the Timurids I have basically no good deving provinces AFAIK and I’m relatively close to Europe, furthermore it might not be worth being behind tech for a little bit but I’m not really sure, what is the typically advice?

Thank you very much in advance!

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Timurid Renaissance

The Timurid Empire based in Central Asia ruled by the Timurid dynasty saw a tremendous increase in the fields of arts and sciences, spreading across both eastern and western world.[163]

Remarkable was the invention of Tamerlane Chess, reconstruction of the city of Samarkand, and substantial contributions made by the family of Sultan Shah Rukh, which include Gawhar Shad, polymath Ulugh Begh, and Sultan Husayn Bayqara in the fields of astronomy, mathematics, and architecture. The empire receive widespread support from multiple Islamic scholars and scientists. A number of Islamic learning centres and mosques were built, most notably the Ulugh Beg Observatory.

The prosperity of the city of Herat is said to have competed with those of Florence, the birthplace of the Italian Renaissance as the center of a cultural rebirth.[164][165]

The aspects of the Timurid Renaissance were later brought in Mughal India by the Mughal Emperors[166][167][168] and served as a heritage of states of the other remaining Islamic Gunpowder empires: the Ottoman Turkey and the Safavid Iran.[[169]](https://en.

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Seriously though, Timurid Renaissance art and architecture is stunning.
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The Timurid Renaissance was, in some estimates, every bit as varied and great as the Italian

Timurid rulers aren't necessarily known for their cultural achievements. However, from the 14th to 16th century the cities of Bukhara, Samarkand, and Herat became centers of knowledge and beauty. Timur and his successors continued the Mongol practice of importing and using the conquered Persian artisans to great effect. While the destruction of the Timurid, and previously Mongol, conquests should never be downplayed, despite all odds this period saw a very fertile flowering of Persian culture.

It is said by many that Islamic painting reached its apogee during this time with several illuminated manuscripts bearing testament. Miniature painting developed its own schools producing unique and high quality works throughout.

Ceramics were highly developed as well as rug making and tile painting.

Several sculptors are considered the equal of Donatello, Raphael, or any other Italian.

Architecture resulted in buildings such as the Great Mosque of Herat, the Bibi-Khaynim, Gawhar Shaud, and many other beautiful buildings.

Several observatories were erected and many astronomical advances were made and they worked out that the earth moves, although they did miss a heliocentric universe, however they were close to getting the speed of the earth's movement through space correct.

This period has every right to be considered a "renaissance" as Persian culture and learning finally had a firm setting again after the ravages of the Mongols. It influenced the Ottoman, Safavid, and Mughal empires extensively, setting forth the general form that all of these empires and cultures would emulate for centuries.

For a nice overview and great pictures here is a link:

https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/timu/hd_timu.htm

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Mullah Mohamad Jan: A love story during the Timurid renaissance youtu.be/i7q39ZV8DnE
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After the Timurid conquest of Samarkand, artists from the conquered lands were settled here. After this, Samarkand experienced its golden period in 14th and 15th centuries. Developed art and science in the period of Amir Timur and his successors is remembered as Timurid Renaissance.
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Registan Square, Samarkand, Uzbekistan. The square is surrounded by three world-renowned mosques/madrassahs, and is regarded as the architectural heart of the Timurid Renaissance. [602x347]
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Registan Square, Samarkand, Uzbekistan. The square is surrounded by three world-renowned mosques/madrassahs, and is regarded as the architectural heart of the Timurid Renaissance. [602x347]
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After the Timurid conquest of Samarkand, artists from the conquered lands were settled here. After this, Samarkand experienced its golden period in 14th and 15th centuries. Developed art and science in the period of Amir Timur and his successors is remembered as Timurid Renaissance. [/u/thatguy_555] reddit.com/r/Uzbekistan/c…
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[LFA] Theskian (Persian/Timurid/Samarkandan) Pre-Renaissance Ornamental Rapier

Ave artists and smiths, I'm looking for a design for a rapier or similarly crafted weapon, whose main use would be to be worn with pride, while not looking too modern, since the setting is pretty medieval (pre-renaissance).

The weapon is to be forged in Thesk, equivalent to Persian/Cosmopolitan countries of the silk road like Samarkand if you need a lead for the style; but it's not a requirement.

I don't have a name for the weapon, feel free to give it yourself based on your design.

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[WAR] The Uzbek Wars

The once-mighty empire of the Timurids had declined significantly in the past century, devolving into a series of petty squabbling kingdoms. Some tried to reclaim their old territory whereas others tried to stake new claims in the Indian Subcontinent. However, one lord who had been resistant to the Iranians in the past was Husayn Bayqara, Lord of Herat. He was the most powerful of the Timurid rulers remaining in Iran, and his works spurred a second Timurid Renaissance. His realm was powerful and stable, and extended from Gorgan to Balkh. However, Husayn’s realm had torn itself apart upon his death in a bloody succession crisis, and its remains had been conquered by the Uzbeks led by Muhammad Shaybani Khan. The great horde now threatened to swallow the entirety of Central Asia, something that Ismail could not abide.

The new legitimate prince of the region was supposed to be Badi' al-Zaman Mirza. However, his capital of Herat had been overrun by the Uzbeks in 1507. The prince had sought refuge in the Iranian Empire, and had been attempting to convince Ismail to stage an invasion of Uzbek territory with his more advanced military and superior numbers. After securing Mesopotamia and signing a truce with the Ottomans in Anatolia, the Young Lion Ismail was now free to march eastwards.

Ismail sees fit to bring with him horse-drawn artillery, as well as analogues to some of the war carts which the Ottomans had deployed so effectively against his own soldiers in the Armenian War. He hires mercenaries equipped with firearms, and a sizeable contingent of camelry, and goes forth to conquer the unknown, hoping to push the Shaybanids back into the steppe once and for all and win the loyalty of the Persianate lords there seeking to cast off Nomadic domination.

Ismail’s eyes were set on Herat, though there are other prizes to be gained. The Fergana Valley is the springboard for trading directly with China. If Ismail was able to capture that, it would bring unimaginable wealth and prestige to Iran. And with each victory over the Sunni Khan, Ismail’s prestige would grow, perhaps turning more and more people to the Shi’a faith...

[OOC: Paying 200K to fund a march northeastwards against the Shaybanid Empire. This is a historical conquest undertaken by Ismail, who pushed the Uzbeks back across the Oxus River and conquered all former Timurid territory which they held. However, if possible, I would like to invest extra resources and attempt to conquer all the way to the F

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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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11 more fully fleshed out Civ ideas, with more concepts and ideas :)

Sid Meier’s Civilization VI: War and Peace

Part 2: War

Part 1: Peace

The Finnish

  • A mysterious and unique people of the north, the Finnish are one of the most different civilizations of Europe. From their non Indo-European language, unusual mythology, and lack of written records, the Finns have captivated many. They are defined by their cold, forested, lake filled homeland in which many have tried to conquer, such as the Swedes and the Russians, but have all failed. Modern Finland is now one of the most educated, developed, and happiest nations on Earth

Unique Ability: Kalevala

  • Entertainment Districts gain +1 amenity and +2 culture for each adjacent district. Tundra, Snow, and Lake Tiles all provide an additional +1 Food and +2 Production

  • Capital City: Helsinki

  • Preferred Religion: Protestantism

Leader: Karl Mannerheim

Leader Ability: White General

  • Combat Units gain combat strength equal to that of the tiles’ positive appeal. Only works in friendly or neutral tiles. +1 Appeal in Happy and Ecstatic Cities. +1 Appeal in Loyal Cities

Unique Unit: JÀÀkÀri

  • Unlocked with Replaceable Parts

  • *Replaces the Infantry. +1 movement and +5 combat strength on Tundra, Tundra Hills, Tundra Woods, Snow, and Snow Hills. When fortified on these tiles, they cannot be seen by enemy units unless seen by a recon unit, move, or attack. *

Unique Infrastructure: Sauna

  • Unlocked with Feudalism

  • +2 Culture, +1 Faith, and +2 Gold. +1 Faith for each adjacent Tundra or Snow Tiles. +1 Culture and +1 Amenities for each adjacent Lake Tile. Must be built adjacent to a Woods tile and not next to another Sauna

Agenda: Winter War

  • Likes peaceful civs that have happy citizens. Hates civs that start wars or are suffering from War Weariness

  • Tries to be defensive and peaceful, and settles only high appeal tiles in the colder regions

  • Tries to gain allies and collaborate with other civs peacefully

  • Tries to achieve a Cultural or Diplomatic Victory

Civ Iconography

  • Symbol: Finnish Lion
  • Outer Color: White
  • Symbol Color: Cyan

The GuaranΓ­

  • *The native people whose land stretches from southern Brazil, Bolivia, Paraguay, and Northern Argentina. They are known for their language, the only nat
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Just because it's a joke, doesn't mean it's a dad joke

Alot of great jokes get posted here! However just because you have a joke, doesn't mean it's a dad joke.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT NSFW, THIS IS ABOUT LONG JOKES, BLONDE JOKES, SEXUAL JOKES, KNOCK KNOCK JOKES, POLITICAL JOKES, ETC BEING POSTED IN A DAD JOKE SUB

Try telling these sexual jokes that get posted here, to your kid and see how your spouse likes it.. if that goes well, Try telling one of your friends kid about your sex life being like Coca cola, first it was normal, than light and now zero , and see if the parents are OK with you telling their kid the "dad joke"

I'm not even referencing the NSFW, I'm saying Dad jokes are corny, and sometimes painful, not sexual

So check out r/jokes for all types of jokes

r/unclejokes for dirty jokes

r/3amjokes for real weird and alot of OC

r/cleandadjokes If your really sick of seeing not dad jokes in r/dadjokes

Punchline !

Edit: this is not a post about NSFW , This is about jokes, knock knock jokes, blonde jokes, political jokes etc being posted in a dad joke sub

Edit 2: don't touch the thermostat

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Europe with a successful Hohenstaufen HRE [Lore]

ITTL the Hohenstaufen dynasty of the HRE enjoyed the same degree of luck and success as the other best-performing royal families that developed their European states into strong, centralized monarchies. It got at least 200-300 years of reasonably long-lived, competent, healthy, lucky, and talented rulers, with no premature deaths, serious dynastic crises, lengthy and disruptive civil wars or interregna, or clearly unfit successors. This enabled the HRE to consolidate Germany and Italy into a multinational state using neo-Roman universalism, Latin, and Imperial civic identity as unifying elements. The Hohenstaufen Emperors merged the Kingdom of Sicily in the HRE and crushed the opposition of German princes, Italian municipalities, and the Popes to their rule. In due time, they leveraged their domestic success to expand the borders of the empire and absorb Poland, Hungary, and North Africa too.

The family success story began with Frederick I Barbarossa. In addition to all his OTL achievements, he was able to deal a decisive defeat on rebellious Italian cities and German princes including his treacherous cousin Henry the Lion, bringing the former into line and seizing most possessions of the latter. He fought off the Popes to a favorable draw. He died a few years after leading the Third Crusade to a successful conclusion, which allowed recovering Jerusalem and conquering Aleppo and Damascus. The rich booty he brought back from the crusade enabled his son to assert his rights on the Kingdom of Sicily which he got by marriage. He started his family’s policy of using Roman legal tradition as a tool to centralize the HRE and legitimize the Emperors’ rule, and building up the lower nobility, the β€˜ministeriales’ class, pro-Imperial burghers, and secular bureaucrats as a power base to counterbalance and overpower unruly princes and cities, and hostile Popes.

His son Henry VI lived to a ripe old age like his father and considerably advanced the work of centralizing Germany and Italy. He crushed the attempts of rebellious princes to defy his rule and mostly added their possessions to the Imperial demesne. This included the Welf, which he effectively wiped out, and the Dukes of Bohemia whose aspirations to royal dignity he suppressed. He dealt new decisive defeats to rebellious Italian city-states, consolidating Imperial power across northern and central Italy. He also successfully established the hold of his family on the Kingdom of Sicily, which he got from his wif

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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Petition to ban rants from this sub

Ants don’t even have the concept fathers, let alone a good dad joke. Keep r/ants out of my r/dadjokes.

But no, seriously. I understand rule 7 is great to have intelligent discussion, but sometimes it feels like 1 in 10 posts here is someone getting upset about the jokes on this sub. Let the mods deal with it, they regulate the sub.

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French fries weren’t cooked in France.

They were cooked in Greece.

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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You've been hit by
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I'm sick of you guys posting dumb wordplay in here for awards and upvotes.

Don't you know a good pun is its own reword?

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My 4 year oldest favourit joke, which he very proudly memorized and told all his teachers.

Two muffins are in an oven, one muffin looks at the other and says "is it just me, or is it hot in here?"

Then the other muffin says "AHH, TALKING MUFFIN!!!"

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We need another golden age
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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies πŸ˜‚

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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My wife left me because I couldn’t stop doing impressions of pasta

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Why did Karen press Ctrl+Shift+Delete?

Because she wanted to see the task manager.

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I heard that by law you have to turn on your headlights when it’s raining in Sweden.

How the hell am I suppose to know when it’s raining in Sweden?

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I just flew in from Chernobyl

And boy are my arms legs.

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Steve JOBS would have made a better President than Donald Trump

But that’s comparing apples to oranges

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So 2 trees got arrested in the town I live...

Heard they've been doing some shady business.

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I was almost upset that my coffee tasted like dirt today

but then I remembered it was ground this morning.

Edit: Thank you guys for the awards, they're much nicer than the cardboard sleeve I've been using and reassures me that my jokes aren't stale

Edit 2: I have already been made aware that Men In Black 3 has told a version of this joke before. If the joke is not new to you, please enjoy any of the single origin puns in the comments

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No gains
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How eggs-traordinary
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What is a a bisexual person doing when they’re not dating anybody?

They’re on standbi

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What is the scariest tree?

BamBOO!

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