Bear with me as I'm not reddit savvy. But one topic of discussion that I feel like I see a lot ( especially on booktok), is when it comes to books with characters who exhibit problematic behaviors (i.e. they're racist, homophobic, ableist, etc) it's so common to automatically connect those behaviors done by fictional characters to the author. As an example, the book Eleanor and Park by Rainbow Rowell has instances where Eleanor (and another character whose name I can't remember) makes racists comments about Park the other main character who is Korean. Now, not only have readers decided Eleanor racist for making those comments (which I can understand), but now Rainbow Rowell is racist for writing a character who has made a racist comment.

Now, I haven't read anything by Rainbow Rowell in who knows how many years, nor do I know anything about the woman, so by all means she could be racist and I just not know. But this is just one of many examples that I've seen where a character's disagreeable actions are immediately seen as a reflection of the author.

I'm not sure if I've explained myself very well here, but I would love to you know your guys' thoughts on this. Does a character's problematic behavior make the author problematic? At what point are accusations like this accurate? Why are some unable to separate a character's behaviors from the author?

I’m really getting sick of this. Spoiler readers constantly make posts/comments telling us to not read the spoilers or we’ll regret it or talking about how hype the chapter will be but this is a spoiler in its own sense. They think they’re doing us some service but they’re not.

First of all it leads to overly high expectations. With all the fuss they made for this chapter I figured something insane was gonna happen, and while this chapter was great my expectations were definitely set too high which caused to leave less of an impact and some small disappointment.

It also causes less excitement for chapters that don’t have people making posts and comments about not reading the spoilers. Because if it’s not exciting enough for them to not say it when they say it every time a chapter is going to be hyped then I get less excited.

I’d prefer if spoiler readers would just shut it in general about whether a chapter is going to be amazing or not outside the spoiler thread. Anyone else?

EDIT: RESPONSE:

1.) "How is hyping something a spoiler?"

• If your mom is setting up a surprise party for your father and wants it to be a surprise, should you tell your dad something exciting is going to happen later in the day? I mean you didn't tell him its a surprise party! No you shouldn't because your mom wants the complete experience to be a surprise. When you tell someone something hype is going to happen, that's typically because there will be a surprise. If you expect a surprise that suprise won't give you the same feeling of excitement.

2.) "Its the same thing as manga readers hyping chapters after reading them"

• There's a difference between discussing an actual chapter and discussing text leaks of a spoiler days in advance of chapter release. For one, one is against the subreddit rules one isn't. Anime viewers aren't gonna remember what exact chapter people were hyped about if they only keep up with the anime. On the other hand, leak spoilers are a couple days before chapter scans are released....

3.) "Hype is subjective"

• Almost every single time spoilers are hyped its because something surprising or important to plot is revealed... That's not subjective. If Vivi returned out of nowhere or Enel popped up from the sky you can be hundred percent sure with this current state everyone would know the chapter is supposed to be "hype" even if they didn't read the leaks.

4.) "You can stay off the subreddit"

• Or spoi

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Thinking about the recent adaptions of the Witcher and The Wheel of Time which are getting very mixed reactions, it seems to me that The Expanse is the only show doing it right.

I miss it a lot. After using a Pixel 3 since its release, I still have the muscle memory to try to unlock it. I'm disappointed every time :c

Edit: First time I've ever made a solid conversation on Reddit and I feel like I started a war! Everyones entitled to personal preferences with technology guys, just be civil.

Edit #2: "Look Ma! I'm in Hot!" Thanks for the awards everyone. Love you all!

Tip culture is getting out of hand. I used to tip 10% as a button on the machine. A few months ago, I noticed the lowest option was 15%. Still, I tipped, because I was brought up to believe that it was rude not to tip. However, last night I was getting my $7 pretzel and $4 Dasani bottle of water at a hockey game and I hit "no tip" for the first time. Why should I have to pay 15% more on already extremely inflated prices? As someone who used to work for tips, I still can't help but feel like an assh*le.

“Elvish has left the building.”

Smh

Hello showrunners. I am your specified target audience: LotR fan, GoT fan, NotW fan, Witcher fan....who just never got around to reading these books. I judge you entirely on your own work. You're welcome.

Your show is alright to good. It's not as good as vintage GoT (not even close)... it's not even as good as the Witcher. I happily give it an 8/10.

Each Friday my wife and I look forward to watching the next episode. That's a success in my book!

Then I watched the finale. The show is now a 6/10.

I don't (yet) care what the books say, but your story still has to be a good story. Basic story-writing seems to have been thrown out the window.

Your story looks like someone wrote a coherent plot and then someone else came in and changed an element or two for ??? reasons and now none of it makes any narrative sense whatsoever.

The Dragon must seal/defeat the Dark One. This is the main plot of Season 1.

If Rand doesn't do this, all is lost. Except...it isn't? Because what difference did it make? None that i can tell.

It's quite obviously too soon for Rand to defeat the Dark One...but his visit to the Eye still has to matter...it especially has to matter in the context of this episode/season.

Rand HAS to kill the trolloc horde for the narrative to make any sense. He just does. It's the only correct conclusion to the season's arc/plot.

I watched this episode with no knowledge of the books. But i still knew Rand HAS to kill this horde. This is just basic storytelling.

1. All season you've told me the Dragon is their only hope, therefore he HAS to save the day. That's just how it works.

2. If Rand doesn't kill this horde, his journey into the Blight with Moiraine does. not. matter. The moment your entire season has been leading up to, doesn't matter. !!! That's a bad story, how many editors let this fly?

5 amateur channelers defeated thousands of trollocs and dozens of fade...if Rand never leaves the city...can't they still do this? Did an entire city of men die for nothing?

Firstly, you already told me one of these women (the leader, no less) flunked out of magic school...and two of them dont really have any experience channeling intentionally.

Secondly, in previous episodes a dozen aes sedai were almost(?) defeated by a False Dragon and his army of men.

I dont care how strong Nyn is, my suspension of disbelief does not survive this scene.

[Aside: Nyn uses magic to save egwene...only for egwene to turn around and use magic to save Nyn..

It’s Rand “because he’s too pretty to not be special”

Reminded me of when someone does a math problem completely wrong but still gets the right answer

This thread is for discussion of The Wheel of Time tv show through Season 1, Episode 8 and associated bonus content. This thread is meant for people who have not read the books.

#TIMING

Episodes are released at midnight, GMT on Fridays. This means 7pm, ET on Thursdays.

At 6:30pm, ET, when this episode discussion thread is created, all submissions about the tv show will be automatically removed until Saturday morning.

#EPISODE

Episode 8 - The Eye of the World

Synopsis: For twenty years, Moiraine has dreamed and worked towards this moment. But she can't stop the Dragon Reborn from seeing the appeal of the Dark.

#BONUS CONTENT

Amazon Prime has included cartoon featurettes for each episode. They are now accessible from the main Amazon Prime page, under the "Episodes" tab. They are presented under the "Origin Stories" title.

The Origin Stories and any other supplemental x-ray content, or behind the scenes information should be confined to this thread. For more information on how to access the bonus content, see the Amazon Welcome To X-Ray page.

#DISPLAY SETTINGS

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#OTHER THREADS

Please see the discussion hub link below to find the thread for full book spoilers, or the lightly restricted thread for those who have only read some of the books.

For links to all of our previous episode discussion threads, or alternate spoiler levels, as well as mega threads for certain topics related to the show, see our discussion hub wiki page.

After spending several months reading many scripts, and doing coverage for them, I decided to type up a list of the main issues I’ve seen that lead to scripts being passed on by other readers and by me.

1. If they’re sexist, racist, ableist, homophobic, etc.
2. Trying to make characters who committed sexual assault into heroes and make the audience feel sorry for them. That is weird and raises many red flags.
3. Lots of spelling mistakes or grammar issues. A few throughout can be overlooked if the story is good, but multiple on every single page is ridiculous.
4. No stakes. If there are no stakes or very minor stakes, I don’t care about what your character does or what happens to them.
5. Reliance on gimmicky premises. Can gimmicks be interesting in theory? Maybe. Are they practical? Probably not.
6. Bad dialogue. Dialogue that is unrealistic, includes an excessive amount of exposition, or the characters say exactly what they are thinking or feeling constantly.
7. No clear concept or premise. Either too much happens or absolutely nothing happens, and it’s difficult to decipher what the script is about.
8. This one applies to pilots, but when the ending takes the story in a completely different direction than what was previously set up. This makes it unclear where the story would go. For example, the first 25 pages of a script are spent focus on ghost hunting, and then out of nowhere the main characters decide to form a rock band in the last few pages of the script. I need to know what the story is and where it is going from the beginning.
9. Writing the script for the wrong medium. Many pilots would be better off if they were features and quite a few features would work better as pilots.

These were the recurring issues I noticed in a wide variety of scripts across every genre.

Did people also used to say there were no stakes at the time in every arc except Marineford? Did people say it then too? People have this criticism of Wano but I really don’t see how its stakes are somehow lower than other classic arcs. And any time I ask someone or see people arguing, the criticism dumbs down to (paraphrasing of course) “no I actually thought the buster call could wipe them out and luffy was gonna lose to lucci.” But now “it’s too obvious that luffy and co are gonna stop onigashima from nuking the capital, stop onigashima from crushing the capital, beat an emperor, beat another emperor, and ward of the world government who are here to annex Wano”

Am i the only one who feels like they’re taking crazy pills? Am I on the wrong sub? Is this r/weonlylikemarineford? I guess at the end of the day it doesn’t matter since it doesn’t change my views on the arc, I’ve just always thought this is such an arbitrary criticism that for some reason a lot of people have on this sub.

Edit: big thanks to all those who answered with the experience of being a weekly reader for a long time. This definitely gave me the insight I was looking for!

A lot of people feel more confident when they got reviews on their work. I try to comment as much as my limited english allows it. I've read tons of good fanfics people didn't reply for whatever their motives (usually the more popular ones).

But you know what? It's very, very gratifying when someone replies. It's like getting an autograph from your favorite authors and even when it isn't one of your favorites, it's very nice to see their enthusiasm. It makes you want to shake their hands and say "yes, you did it!" Anyway, just a shout out to everyone who writes: we know all of the effort you're putting on this! WELL DONE!

I think Wano has done a lot for One Piece and its overall story. We got a lot of cool reveals and countless hype moments that we’ve been waiting for years. However, I hate to admit that I’ve felt the tension has been lackluster. Looking back at Marineford or Enies Lobby, the whole situation seemed a lot more dire. That being said, I’ve been a weekly reader for 12 years and I think that what many people describe as the weekly reader syndrome is taking place as we read through wano. It’s been such a long arc and it is inevitable to get some sort of fatigue. Although most of the experience has been positive, the mishaps like the fake deaths have felt underwhelming af. However, looking back at dressrosa, people where hating on it like there was no tomorrow. Same thing for whole cake island. They complained about the pacing and how things were dragged out to the point that they felt the tension was completely gone. But in retrospective, many have come around to those arcs and people love them to death at this point. I think we need to appreciate the good things that have come out of this arc and wait for it’s completion to actually determine if the tension is as bad as we are making it out to be.

I'm working on a story where the person committing crimes will end up being one of the main characters who is a woman.

Before we learn this, I want to have some instances where I describe this person committing crimes, but I don't want to use "she" as that would give things away.

Would it be wrong to use "he" when describing this action and have them later revealed to actually be a "she?" It feels wrong, so I assume the resounding answer here will be yes.

If so, what is best way to handle it? I guess I could just use "they" instead of he/she, but that feels awkward. In fact, I think it might feel awkward enough to the reader that it could tip them off that it might not be a man and therefore, could ruin the ultimate reveal and help them figure out the ending way before they should.

Recently, I've seen a lot of complaints about the storyline in general (as opposed to just the failings of one nation's story such as Inazuma). Things like how the Traveler going to other nations doesn't make sense, how early mysteries like the destruction of Khaenri'ah or the granting of Visions aren't answered, or how people don't care about NPCs, etc.

Personally, I find this to be miHoYo's greatest failure in their storytelling. No, not the complaints in of themselves, but the fact that they exist, because it means they messed up in showing everyone the actual point of the story and the narrative itself. What do I mean? Let's think about this for a second.

Genshin Impact's narrative is not about the overarching mysteries it sets up, and there are several things that make this pretty clear.

First off, the narrative represents humanity's relationship with the divine and their place in the world. This is really obvious if you go and read the manga, where the motivations of one of the main characters is strongly influenced by their lack of a Vision and the poor hand they were dealt in life because of it. The prologue chapter of the manga explores Vennessa's perception of the divine and the final 'reward' she reaps at the end for being a hero, a 'reward' that Venti implies through very vague metaphors and foreshadowing is not so good.

So yeah, this is the point. The world of Teyvat revolves around its mortals and the way that they see and interact with the rules and divinities put into place to rule and regulate them. What is freedom when demanded of you by a God? What do mortals see of the Eternity their God seeks? The God of Contracts senselessly slaughtered as his people watched on in horror. There's a 'push for folly' in Sumeru, but the Dendro Archon doesn't care. The people of Snezhnaya have no 'love' left for the Tsaritsa, nor does she have any for them.

It's this importance that the narrative places on the people of Teyvat that drives the plot, and it's what you're ultimately supposed to get invested into. The greater mysteries, such as why Khaenri'ah was destroyed, or what exactly Celestia might be, are only really permutations of this narrative. The game encourages you to get invested in the world around you, and not its destination, in several ways.

• Venti outright tells you that it's about the journey, not the destination. This is the first thing you hear before setting off for another nation proper for the first time.

• The Siblin

Hi folks! I guess I'll never be able to post on the WOT subreddit now...but whatever. So I'm angry at how beautiful stories are trashed for this supposed very difficult artistic medium called TV. Just some background: I'm a white female, in graduate school (although I'm studying economics). I love a strong female character; I love equality; I love women having power. So when the show came out, I was intrigued because it seemed different with many female characters. Mind you, I hadn't read the books. But I love fantasy. I've read LOTR/Silmarillian/other stories a bunch of times; I like some of Brandon Sanderson books, Way of Kings probably the most; I loveeeeed GoT (and even season 8 had some amazing parts); Dune; etc etc. For example, I had listened to Dune awhile back, watched the movie, reread the book, and then watched the movie again and LOVED IT (yes I know there are differences, but the movie captured the essence of the book). So when I started WOT I was ecstatic as there hasn't been a good fantasy show in a while (Foundations....was...well the Emperors were good). And I was confused by the first three episodes of the show. Perrin killing his wife was weird to me. That is so utterly traumatic (Wife & Baby, lets not forget), I thought he was going to lose it but never did... The show felt...subpar in terms of editing/quality/CGI - felt a bit like the Shannara Chronicles (can't remember how to spell it, but the WB-esque type show). I couldn't feel...immersed... So I decided to listen to the books and finished the first three in about 4 weeks. I think I finished the first book between episode 3 and 5. By Episode 5, I got angry.

Here's why:

1. I love good characters , regardless of ethnicity or gender, but all of the men were tarnished (I know I'm preaching to the choir here). TV is obsessed with trauma porn: making Perrin kill his wife/baby; Matt's dysfunction family. It felt completely unnecessary. I loved the awkwardness/innocence of the characters in the books. It reminded me of when I was in high school, completely oblivious and awkward but also aware and just learning things. I really like Daniel Henney (I've watched his stuff before) and was excited for him. But they made him weak. They also ruined his and moiraine's relationship. In the books, they feel like independent individuals bonded over their fight to save the world. Show Lan just seemed...like a stick figure. It felt like all the men were basically lost puppies. In the books, I fe

Fellow apes,

With a new year upon us, it is time that I made my first ever post on reddit.

I first stumbled upon WSS in early 2021 whilst doing regular research on investments and looking at ways to protect myself from all the silliness created by the so called central bankers. I have to say that the WSS community is unique and it has been amazing watching the community grow and the ape knowledge, research and laughter shared by all.

To commemorate my first post on WSS, I have made the decision to purchase my first ever physical silver piece.........a 1kg bar. That is just over 32oz for those of you that hail from the states.

It is a privilege to be part of a community that shares the same goal. With the ever growing juvenile behaviour around us, (akin to playing monopoly) it is now ever more important that each and every one us look after our hard earned value through tangible silver. As we all know, the bonus of doing this is that we will also work our way towards emptying the comex.

I'm off to organise the purchase of my first ever bar and will return with a photo for you all to enjoy. I know how much you apes go bananas for shiny.

Wish all my fellow apes a safe, healthy and prosperous year ahead.

Cheers, aud

Are you a show-only fan who wants to learn that horse's name? Want to remember the name of that one character who appeared for one scene but don't want to be greeted with Google autofilling "___ dies" or what have you? Did something pique your interest in some particular aspect of the culture and metaphysics of the Wheel of Time and you want to learn more?

This is the thread to ask!

Book readers, please exercise restraint with your answers. Stick to lore spoilers only, and try to use spoiler tags if you feel a particular lore spoiler may need it.

Thanks /u/royalhawk345 for this idea. We now have a post like this scheduled to be posted automatically every Monday.

I like those threads because I like to see different interpretations of the episodes, and half the damn comments(it feels like) are vaguely worded spoilers, and yes saying things like "Just wait" is absolutely a spoiler as you're implying something will happen to something. Also almost every heavily critical post(especially on episode 5) is obviously a book reader unhappy about changes, I went through some of the more obvious ones and every one of them had posts in this sub well before the show was out or in book spoiler threads.

Guys I get it, I wasn't much of a fan of a lot of episode 5 either, to many changes that felt weird, to much time on characters that aren't important, but stop fucking with non-readers because you're fucking angsty about the adaption, if you don't like it bitch in the reader threads or just stop watching....

TL:DR STOP FUCKING POSTING IN NON-READER THREADS IF YOU ARE A READER!

And I don’t mean “Guessed the DR wrong”, unless it’s for some really wild reason.

Here‘s mine: My wife thought that a Wisdom is a town’s warrior guardian. Because Nynaeve is always going on about how she’s the Wisdom and how her job is to protect her people, and we mainly see her going all Predator on Trollocs and leading some sort of survivalist hazing ritual. I had to break it to her that a Wisdom is mostly just a person with a fanny pack full of medicinal herbs…

I have been on the “disappointed reader” end of many an adaptation, so I understand the feeling of wishing it was more 1:1. That said, I did just want to express that I think the show stands well on its merits. I dunno if it’s as different as this, but maybe the best way to view it moving forward is more as an adaptation on the style of “The Haunting of” series, where it’s more in the spirit of the thing than direct.

Mostly I just see a lot of stuff that goes beyond disappointment in wishing it went a different direction and into toxicity against creators and showrunners, putting words in Cavill’s mouth, all kinds of stuff that I felt was uncalled for as I read it. Can’t police people’s feelings and wouldn’t want to, but I do wish the sub was a little more hospitable to general discussion of the show. Is there a different sub I should head to?

So, S2 of The Witcher Netflix show was released 3 days ago, and a lot of discussions have sparked about the controversy regarding its writing and the changes it made compared to the books. In those discussions, I’ve seen a lot of posts and comments defending S2 against most of the critics made by saying that, as an adaptation, the show doesn’t have to follow exactly the source material, and that it is perfectly fine to be its own thing with its own storyline and changes. To which I completely agree since books and TV are two very different medium and that even without that, an adaptation is the perfect occasion to show variation of the same story, to deeper explore some of its aspects or even bring new themes and see how it can shape naturally in and around the story.

But the thing is, this is not a problem that I or the vast majority of book readers/game players have with this season, nor is it the arguments used in the critics made toward the show.

To give a little context, I personally was introduced to The Witcher serie because of the Netflix show around two years ago. I already have heard of it before namely with The Witcher 3, but I never really had the occasion or the desire to look into it. However, after watching S1, I became really interested in the characters and the universe, and from then, read all the books and played all the games (currently doing Witcher 3) in the span of 10 months. What I want to say is, this show allowed me to discover a franchise that is now deeply beloved to me, and I really thank it for it.

So as a fan that started with the show, I was really supportive of it being its own thing and taking liberties with the plot for the reasons I’ve said earlier, a sentiment shared by a lot of people and book readers. The thing that I and other fans wanted, however, was that S2 kept the main character’s motivations, relationships, and overall themes of the books.

Namely, I wanted to see Geralt and Ciri develop their endearing Father/Daughter relationship with their training, their discusions, the caring side of Geralt and the insolent attitude of Ciri. I wanted Kaer Morhen to be Ciri's new home with Vesemir as her funny grand-father, Eskel/Coën/Lambert as her cool uncles, and Triss as her protective big sister. I wanted to see Ciri and Yenefer have conflictual relationship at first because of their opposite but somewhat alike characters that slowly but ultimately become a sweet Daughter/Mother relationship.

I also wanted

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THE MANGA DISCUSSION THREAD CAN BE FOUND HERE.

Once again: Please note that this is an ANIME SPOILERS ONLY thread. Any manga readers found in this thread will be banned for two days and reaccommodated at their expense.

NO MANGA CONTENT ALLOWED.

Where to watch - SUBTITLED:

Note : English subs will be available every Sunday at 12:45 PM Pacific time. Discussion threads are posted just after the episode's broadcast in Japan, not when english subs are available as many fans watch episodes live.

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• Funimation: NOT LIVE
• Hulu: NOT LIVE
• AnimeLab: NOT LIVE
• Aniplus Asia: NOT LIVE
• Wakanim Nordic (English subs for SWE, NOR, DEN, FIN, ISL): NOT LIVE
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English dubbed episodes will be released in a few weeks.

This thread is for discussion of The Wheel of Time tv show through Season 1, Episode 7 and associated bonus content. This thread is meant for people who have not read the books.

#TIMING

Episodes are released at midnight, GMT on Fridays. This means 7pm, ET on Thursdays.

At 6:30pm, ET, when this episode discussion thread is created, all submissions about the tv show will be automatically removed until Saturday morning.

#EPISODE

Episode 7 - The Dark Along the Ways

Synopsis: Moiraine and her charges are diverted from their path by an unexpected encounter. This diversion, though, reveals many things — Moiraine’s true goal, Lan’s past, the fractures that have grown in the group, and the identity of the Dragon Reborn.

#BONUS CONTENT

Amazon Prime has included cartoon featurettes for each episode. They are now accessible from the main Amazon Prime page, under the "Episodes" tab. They are presented under the "Origin Stories" title.

The Origin Stories and any other supplemental x-ray content, or behind the scenes information should be confined to this thread. For more information on how to access the bonus content, see the Amazon Welcome To X-Ray page.

#DISPLAY SETTINGS

/u/logicsol has created a guide that addresses some of the display issues many people are seeing when watching the show. Please see this post for more information.

#OTHER THREADS

Please see the discussion hub link below to find the thread for full book spoilers, or the lightly restricted thread for those who have only read some of the books.

For links to all of our previous episode discussion threads, or alternate spoiler levels, as well as mega threads for certain topics related to the show, see our discussion hub wiki page.