Choosing between a Kapleau/Rochester lineage center and a TenryΕ«-ji Rinzai temple

This can probably be thought of as a general, how to choose between different Zen centers question, but I mentioned the lineages here just so if anyone happens to have any experiences with/opinions about either, I'm happy to hear those as well. tl;dr: I'm including a bit of detail on my background and how I've felt about each place so far below, but, feel free to skip most of that if you have some general advice on having options, and figuring out what feels best when you're at the beginning of the path and differences are not so clear.

A bit of background: I've been fairly seriously interested in the Buddhadharma for the last year and a half or so, maybe a bit longer. I've done a lot of reading on my own and across a lot of different traditions. I had just started to explore different options I had for finding a sangha at the start of last year, and of course when the pandemic hit, everything closed down. There were some online options, but it wasn't quite the same. I should also mention I live in a major metro area, so there are a lot of options around here, both across traditions, but even under the Zen umbrella, there are a lot of sanghas who meet.

I've gone to some places and immediately felt like there wasn't a connection. I know first impressions aren't always everything, but since there are some places I have felt a more immediate connection to, I'm focusing in on those. And those that I have felt a connection to are a Zen Center in the Kapleau/Rochester lineage and a Rinzai temple. I got turned onto Rinzai by Meido Moore's book, and was sort of delighted to find that a temple in his lineage was nearby.

What I have trouble with is that the practice for beginners at each of these places looks very similar. There's an emphasis on posture, like I think there is at most places, and initial practice is breath counting. One thing worth mentioning is that the Kapleau center has been meeting in person, whereas the Rinzai temple is still online. So I've been able to actually go to dokusan in person, but not receive any personal instruction/sanzen, outside of an initial introduction to practice, at the other temple.

Given that things look fairly similar, I'm not sure what I should be considering in thinking about where I want to start committing more of my time. I like the yogic nature of Rinzai Zen. There's definitely a focus on posture at both places, but I appreciate the extent to which Zen truly feels like a full body experience in that traditio

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πŸ”₯ TenryΕ«-ji Bamboo Forest - Kyoto Japan πŸ”₯
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Demon slayer corps headquarters = TenryΕ«-ji Temple in Kyoto ?

Recently went to Kyoto, couldn’t help but notice the resemblance between TenryΕ«-ji temple and the Demon Slayer corps headquarters. Is it inspired by it ?

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ITAP of the TenryΕ«-ji temple in Kyoto
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TenryΕ«-ji Temple gardens
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Lonely Soul Outside TenryΕ«-ji [OC] [4032x3024] flickr.com/photos/edson_a…
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[OC] Autumn colors at TenryΕ«-ji Temple Gardens, Kyoto, Japan. My favorite shot from my vacation. [1320x990]
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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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French fries weren’t cooked in France.

They were cooked in Greece.

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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I'm sick of you guys posting dumb wordplay in here for awards and upvotes.

Don't you know a good pun is its own reword?

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My 4 year oldest favourit joke, which he very proudly memorized and told all his teachers.

Two muffins are in an oven, one muffin looks at the other and says "is it just me, or is it hot in here?"

Then the other muffin says "AHH, TALKING MUFFIN!!!"

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies πŸ˜‚

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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Just because it's a joke, doesn't mean it's a dad joke

Alot of great jokes get posted here! However just because you have a joke, doesn't mean it's a dad joke.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT NSFW, THIS IS ABOUT LONG JOKES, BLONDE JOKES, SEXUAL JOKES, KNOCK KNOCK JOKES, POLITICAL JOKES, ETC BEING POSTED IN A DAD JOKE SUB

Try telling these sexual jokes that get posted here, to your kid and see how your spouse likes it.. if that goes well, Try telling one of your friends kid about your sex life being like Coca cola, first it was normal, than light and now zero , and see if the parents are OK with you telling their kid the "dad joke"

I'm not even referencing the NSFW, I'm saying Dad jokes are corny, and sometimes painful, not sexual

So check out r/jokes for all types of jokes

r/unclejokes for dirty jokes

r/3amjokes for real weird and alot of OC

r/cleandadjokes If your really sick of seeing not dad jokes in r/dadjokes

Punchline !

Edit: this is not a post about NSFW , This is about jokes, knock knock jokes, blonde jokes, political jokes etc being posted in a dad joke sub

Edit 2: don't touch the thermostat

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Steve JOBS would have made a better President than Donald Trump

But that’s comparing apples to oranges

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So 2 trees got arrested in the town I live...

Heard they've been doing some shady business.

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I was almost upset that my coffee tasted like dirt today

but then I remembered it was ground this morning.

Edit: Thank you guys for the awards, they're much nicer than the cardboard sleeve I've been using and reassures me that my jokes aren't stale

Edit 2: I have already been made aware that Men In Black 3 has told a version of this joke before. If the joke is not new to you, please enjoy any of the single origin puns in the comments

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BamBOO!

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What is a a bisexual person doing when they’re not dating anybody?

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A play on words.

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I wanna hear your best airplane puns.

Pilot on me!!

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E or ß?
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Which actor drives the least?

Christopher Walken

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What did Spartacus say when the lion ate his wife?

Nothing, he was gladiator.

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Pun intended.
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No spoilers
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Should we create an English word for the 'day after tomorrow'?

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These aren't dad jokes...

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

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What did 0 say to 8 ?

What did 0 say to 8 ?

" Nice Belt "

So What did 3 say to 8 ?

" Hey, you two stop making out "

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When I got home, they were still there.

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