Somehow, I forgot about Cousins. So props for a particular person for reminding me. Cousins has made two Pro Bowls, Carr has made three. Cousins has to make the Pro Bowl this season, get 10 more TD passes, and the Vikings must have a losing record with him as their starting quarterback to be on the list. Cousins has been stuck to a lot of bad defenses, so I can't blame him for having a not impressive record. He should put up terrific numbers once again this season. Even if Carr throws 30 TD passes and the Raiders go 16-1 (LOL) somehow, he'll add his name to the list. But I mean, he's on the Raiders! These are the Raiders who we're talking about! An embarrassing franchise for the most part since 2003. You can put just about any quarterback who has been a Pro Bowler at least more than once in his situation and they would have a bad record. Nothing to be ashamed of. One of the QBs currently on the list is HOF and the other two were Pro Bowlers multiple times.

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I've recently withdrawn my support from the team (long story) but I have to admit this announcement made be kind of sad. Sonny, Sam, and Frank provided fond, early memories for me. They were D.C. institutions, even before they joined forces in the radio booth in 1979. This absolutely feels like the "nail in the coffin" for the team's best years, both on and off the field.

NFL TD Title Leaders

Tom Brady (5x)

Peyton Manning (4x)

Johnny Unitas (4x)

Brett Favre (4x)

Steve Young (4x)

Drew Brees (4x)

Len Dawson (4x)

Dan Marino (3x)

Y.A. Tittle (3x)

Arnie Herber (3x)

Sid Luckman (3x)

Active QBs with TD Titles

Tom Brady (5x)

Aaron Rodgers (2x)

Patrick Mahomes (1x)

Lamar Jackson (1x)

Russel Wilson (1x)

NFL Yard Title Leader

Drew Brees (7x)

Dan Marino (5x)

Sonny Jurgensen (5x)

Tom Brady (4x)

Johnny Unitas (4x)

Sammy Baugh (4x)

Dan Fouts (4x)

Peyton Manning (3x)

Arnie Herber (3x)

John Brodie (3x)

Active QBs with Yard Titles

Tom Brady (4x)

Ben Roethlisberger (2x)

Deshaun Watson (1x)

Jameis Winston (1x)

Quarterbacks who topped (or jointly topped, in italics) all four statistical categories:

(The NFL only started keeping track of statistics in 1932.)

This chart shows the total yards for each year's passing yard leader, but the focus is on the record, which is why I'm avoiding the clutter of using data labels for each and every season. At the bottom of the chart, I include the context of how many games were played each year (14-game era, 16-game era, etc).

A few notes:

• "Slingin" Sammy Baugh passed for 2,938 yards in 1947. He held the record for 13 years which is the 2nd longest time period to hold the record.
• Johnny Unitas broke Baugh's record in 1960, only to hold it for one year when Sonny Jurgensen broke in a year later by over 700 yards in the first season of the 14-game era.
• First 3,000 yard passer - Sonny Jurgensen
• First 4,000 yard passer - Joe Namath
• Two years into the 16-game era, a Fouts-alanche started with Dan Fouts breaking the record three seasons in a row from 1979-81
• First 5,000 yard passer - Dan Marino
• Marino would break by Dan Fouts' record and hold the record for 27 f**king years!
• Payton Manning broke Drew Bees' record by ONE YARD.
• Derek Carr is on pace for 5,276 yards which would be the third-highest season ever.

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Everybody remembers the quarterbacks who one the Super Bowl, but many fewer remember the guys who lost. I wanted to give these guys some attention by ranking the quarterbacks who started but never won a Super Bowl.

In order to qualify for this ranking, a quarterback must have started at least one Super Bowl in their career without ever winning one. So guys like Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, and Len Dawson who all lost Super Bowls will not appear on this list because they also won Super Bowls. The quarterback must also have been the starter in order to appear on the list. Guys like Steve Grogan who entered in the middle of the Super Bowl will not appear. There are a total of 30 men who currently meet these criteria.

In order to make this ranking easier, I've divided it into three parts: The Bottom Tier (30-21), the Mid Tier (20-11), and the Top Tier (10-1). In deciding where to rank a quarterback, I am ranking them on the entirety of their careers, not just their performance in the big game. Let's begin.

30. David Woodley, Super Bowl XVII (Miami Dolphins)

I really expected to begin this list with Rex Grossman, but Woodley was pound for pound the worse quarterback. Woodley, who played college football at LSU, was drafted by the Dolphins in the 8th round of the 1980 draft. Woodley started 11 games in 1980 following an injury to longtime starter Bob Griese. Griese retired following 1980, paving the way for Woodley to become the primary starter in 1981.

The pinnacle of Woodley's career came in the strike-shortened 1982 season. Woodley put up pedestrian stats, throwing 1080 yards with 5 touchdowns and 8 interceptions, but the Dolphins posted a stellar 7-2 record in the 9 game season. The Dolphins cruised past the Chargers in the divisional round as their stout defense forced Dan Fouts to throw 5 interceptions. In the AFC Championship game they faced the Jets, who were quarterbacked by Richard Todd and had upset the Super Bowl favorite Raiders in the Divisional Round. The AFC Championship Game devolved into a competition of who had the worse quarterback. In the game against the Jets, Woodley was 9 of 21 for 87 yards, with 0 touchdowns and 3 interceptions. His QB rating was a dismal 15.5. However, Todd arguably had a worse day, throwing just 103 yards, 0 touchdowns and 5 interceptions, for an even worse QBR of 8.8. The game was close until the fourth quarter, when Todd tossed a pick six to Dolphins LB AJ Duhe, which gave the Dolphins a

*Hall of Famer

I also included the AAFC Dodgers since PFR includes them in their list of annual passing yards leaders.

Teams without a passing yards leader:

Baltimore Ravens (est. 1996)

Seattle Seahawks (est. 1976)

Atlanta Falcons (est. 1966)

Dallas Cowboys (est. 1960)

Kansas City Chiefs (est. 1960)

Congratulations Bears fans, you've (technically) had a passing yards leader more recently than those five teams and the New York Giants.

Stats available on Pro Football Reference

EDIT: Updated the list to reflect Tom Brady leading the league in passing in 2021. Prior to him, the Buccaneers last leader was Jameis Winston in 2019, with 5,109 yards.

Introduction

I decided to explore the best remaining QB HOF candidates in history with a more advanced metric. Out of the 1037 promising historical and modern QBs tracked by PFR, I have researched 121 when comprising the metric. I ended up becoming a bit burnt out after the first 100, so forgive me if some historical QBs you are interested in were not included.

PFR Methodology

This is the PFR methodology. I believe it needs tuning for eras when several All Decade QBs are being thrashed by Philip Rivers. In my opinion, the accolade and evaluation and metrics could use revising and increased depth.

· First Team All Decade = 25

· Second Team All Decade = 10

· All Decade (No Designation) = 17.5

· Most Valuable Player (MVP) = 12.5

· First Team All Pro (AP1) = 2.5

· Championship Wins = 2.5

· Pro Bowl (PB) = 1.5

· SB (SB) Losses = 1.25

· (Weighted Approximate Value) * 0.5

· (Yds over 40,000 if 1980 or later) * (0.00075)

· (TDs over 250 if 1980 or later) * (0.0075)

· (Yds over 25,000 if 1979 or before) * (0.00075)

· (TDs over 175 if 1979 or before) * (0.0075)

· Subtract 7.5 points if championships = 0

My Methodology

While accolades bonuses are adjusted, the primary improvement regards rewarding players for their major and minor record positions at the time of their retirement. Minor records and metrics receive 0.25x the points of major counterparts, notated in parenthesis.

· Anniversary Team = 20

· First Team All Decade = 20

· All Decade (No Designation) = 17

· Second Team All Decade = 14

· Most Valuable Player (MVP) = 10

· Retiring #1 in a Major Record = 10 (2.5)

· Offensive Player of the Year (OPOY) = 10

· First Team All Pro (AP1) = 9

· Retiring #2-3 in a Major Record = 7 (1.75)

· Championship Win as Starting QB = 7

· Second Team All Pro (AP2) = 6

· Championship MVP = 5

· Retiring #4-5 in a Major Record = 5 (1.25)

· Championship Appearance as Starting QB = 5

· “Unanimous” Major Accolade Bonus = 5

· Retiring #6-10 in a Major Record = 4 (1)

· Pro Bowl (PB) = 2.5

· Comeback Player of the Year (CPOY) = 2

· Leading League in Major Metric = 2 (0.5)

· Retiring #11-15 in a Major Record = 1 (0.25)

Major Records

I wish the amazing EPA/play went super far back, but historically prestigious leaderboard placements are perhaps more fitting for HOF voter perspectives. Their placements are determined at the time of their retirement.

· Career Passing Yds

· Season Passing Yds

· Career Passing TDs

· Seas

I was just thinking randomly based off of the recent ESPN article of the highest combined score game where Sonny Jurgensen put up 72 in 1966 that we don't get to score above 40 very often. I started watching Washington in 1999 and was 1 year old when we won the Super Bowl in 1991 and I have noticed we have never been a high scoring team during my time watching. So I looked back over my watch period to see how many times we have score 40 or more since 1991.

Here is what I found. 18 times 40 or over since 1991

2020 - Dallas (41)

2016 - Green Bay (42) and Chicago (41)

2015 - New Orleans (47)

2014 - Jacksonville (41)

2013 - Chicago (45)

2012 - New Orleans (40)

2005 - San Francisco (52)

2001 - New Orleans (40)

1999 - New York Giants (50) and Chicago Bear (48)

1994 - Indianapolis (41)

1992 - Cardinals (41)

1991 (Super Bowl) - Detroit (45), Cleveland (42), Atlanta (56), Pittsburgh (41), Detroit (41 - NFC Championship)

The last time we lost when we have scored 40 or more was in 1983.

I assume the main reason is coach turnover and not establishing a franchise quarterback. So I looked at Green Bay with Rodgers in comparison over the past decade to see their success at scoring over 40.

Green Bay Results - 25 Times since 2008 - Rodgers Career as a Starter

2020 - Minnesota (43), Detroit (42), Chicago (41), Tennessee (40)

2019 - Oakland (42)

2018 - New York Jets (44)

2014 - Minnesota (42), Chicago (55), Philadelphia (53), Atlanta (43)

2013 - Minnesota (44)

2012 - Houston (42), Tennessee (55)

2011 - New Orleans (42), Denver (49), San Diego (45), Minnesota (45), Oakland (46), Detroit (45)

2010 Super Bowl - Dallas (45), New York Giants (45), Atlanta (48 - Divisional Round)

2009 - Seattle (48), Arizona (45 - Loss in Wild Card)

2008 - Detroit (48)

I am sure there are other teams over the same period with better scoring as well but it does pain me to think that until we have an established quarterback we won't be able to score consistently in the numbers needed to compete in the NFL. Just my open thoughts.

Happy birthday to Jake Gibbs, who bridged the gap between two Yankee greats -- Elston Howard and Thurman Munson.

Jerry Dean Gibbs was born November 7, 1938, in Grenada, Mississippi, and graduated from the University of Mississippi. An outstanding quarterback for Ole Miss, he would be inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 1995. His football accolades included All-SEC (1959, 1960); All-American (1960); All-South (1960); SEC Player of the Year (1960); the Atlanta Touchdown Club's SEC Back of the Year (1960); and Sugar Bowl MVP (1961). He led Ole Miss to an undefeated 10-0-1 season in 1960, and the Rebels were named national champions by the Football Writers Association of America. Gibbs finished third in the Heisman Trophy voting in 1960, and was later named to the Ole Miss Team of the Century as well as the Mississippi Sports Hall of Fame.

Of course, he also excelled in baseball, where he was a three-time All-SEC player as a third baseman and shortstop and a two-time All-American. Ole Miss won back-to-back SEC baseball championships during his time there.

Gibbs not only had his choice of either baseball or football, but he could pick his team: in those pre-merger days, he could either go to the AFL's Houston Oilers, who took him in the 6th round with the 47th overall pick; the NFL's Cleveland Browns, who took him in the 9th round, 125th overall; or, as there was no MLB draft at the time, whichever baseball team he decided to sign with.

The Kansas City A’s, Milwaukee Braves, Los Angeles Dodgers, and Chicago Cubs were all reportedly interested, but Gibbs picked the Yankees, who offered him a $100,000 signing bonus — reportedly the most the Yankees had ever offered to an amateur. But money wasn’t the only reason Gibbs picked New York.

> "I signed with the Yankees because they were a winning team with a winning tradition; they were in the World Series all the time. I made the decision that if I was going for the big leagues, I may as well go for the number one team.”

Gibbs is sometimes referred to as a "Bonus Baby," but technically he wasn't. Under the Bonus Rule, in effect from 1947 and 1950, from 1952 to 1957, and from 1962 to 1964, any amateur signed to a large contract had to be placed on the 25-man major league roster. These young players

If there were no quarterbacks born on a given day, I substituted the player with the best passing stats (marked in italics). Passing stats were only recorded from 1933 onwards so I may have missed a QB or two from the 20's.

#January

#February

The talk about Tom Brady's possible retirement reminded me that the Rams have a history of "retiring" great QBs with losses in the playoffs. In the 1970s, for example, it happened three times:

December 22, 1974 ....... Sonny Jurgensen of the Washington Redskins plays his last game, a 19-10 loss to the Los Angeles Rams in the divisional playoffs. Jurgensen had been brought in to relieve starter Billy Kilmer in the second half, but threw a pick-six in the 4th quarter that sealed the game. This was the last game of Sonny's brilliant 18-year career, which had begun back in 1957.

December 31, 1978 ...... Fran Tarkenton of the Minnesota Vikings plays his last game, a 34-10 loss to the Los Angeles Rams in the divisional playoffs. Tarkenton had been a huge thorn in the Rams side, a real nemesis, leading the Vikings to playoff wins over the Rams in the 1974 and 1976 NFC Championship games, and the 1977 Divisional playoffs. But this time the Rams finally got him, limiting Tark to 18-37 passing and a 53.8 PR. Tarkenton retired after this game with just about all of the NFL career passing marks, an 18-year career that began in 1961.

December 30, 1979 .... Roger Staubach of the Dallas Cowboys (the best QB I've ever seen, FWIW) plays his last game, a 21-19 loss to the Los Angeles Rams in the divisional playoffs. Staubach, like Tarkenton, had been a Rams nemesis, leading his teams to wins over the Rams in the 1973 divisional playoffs and the 1975 and 1978 NFC title games. This game was played in Dallas, with the Cowboys being a heavy 9-point favorite. The Cowboys had flattened the Rams on MNF during the season, and there seemed to be no reason to expect a different outcome in this game. But the Rams got some inspired play by backup QB Vince Ferragamo and a defensive scheme that flooded the secondary with 6 and even 7 DBs on almost every play, the Rams stifled Staubach, holding him to just 124 yards passing and a 53.3 PR. Staubach retired after this season, after 10 brilliant years in the league.

So will Brady follow the same pattern? Like all three of these guys, he's an all-time great QB, a sure-fire Hall of Famer. And like two of them, Staubach and Tarkenton, he had previously bedeviled the Rams in post-season games.

So if Brady does retire now, it will be a neat historical coincidence.

Just saw a post on R/NFL about last passing leader for teams. Sonny Jurgensen was the last QB who lead the league in passing for us in 1969. Have we had anybody lead the league in anything since then?

Introduction

Hello, Reddit. This is the third part of the trilogy of leaderboard comparisons where I decided to compare HOF QBs to see how “the greatest” quarterbacks in history stacked up in leaderboards. I also included the widely agreed for-sure locks that have yet to be inducted:

· Tom Brady (2001)

· Drew Brees (2002)

· Ben Roethlisberger (2004)

· Aaron Rodgers (2008)

Many other potential "maybes" such as Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, etc. were excluded in this sequel of threads, however, I am working on an alternative HOF monitor for fun that does include all those individuals, so hang tight there for the moment. The order also changes somewhat, which is interesting.

But back on topic: I aimed to include the top 10 players, and extended the list if the tenth slot was a tie. However, if the bottom slot was tied by a large number of people, I cut the list short. If a single QB holds multiple record positions, he is only listed for his most impressive record.

Methodology

I am addressing a few “combined” accolades such as All Decade and Anniversary Teams, then combining the regular season (60) and post-season (44) thread subsets (previous threads, here and here) of the index to find their “all time” leaderboard ranking.

Prestige Index Categories

I selected the few prestigious “all-time” accolades that contribute to the memory and appeal of QBs. Below are the leaderboards being covered and my rationale in selecting them.

All Decade and NFL Anniversary Teams

These accolades will be listed and addressed here before final calculations are taken into account. Some distinctions are made for rankings, such as First Team and Second Team, or unanimous and non-unanimous.

My Super Basic Leaderboard Summary

This a summary of how frequently a QB made the leaderboards and their placements. If QB "X" appeared in 5 leaderboards, placing 1st, 3rd, 8th, 2nd, and 4th, this this is notated as 1, 3, 8, 2, 4 (5) [3.6] in the data section. (5) represents their total appearances and [3.6] is their average placement. The summary in this thread contains information from the previous two threads, which covered many more leaderboards specific to the regular season and post-season respectively.

Era-Adjusted Prestige Index

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