The argument that everyone always gives for not being able to drink at 21 is that the brain isn't fully developed yet, etc. But we allow these same people, who can't even legally purchase a beer, to go and die for us? I understand that not every 18 year old that joins the military is gonna die obviously. But this isn't just some high risk job. The point of the military is defence and fighting. Yes I get that there are other positions that never see combat. But that doesn't change the fact that they CAN see combat. now, I'm not arguing that the drinking age should be lowered, or that the military age should be increased. Obviously one of those would have to happen if we made them the same age, but I'm not really for one of the other, as I am no expert. But I cannot fathom how people think it's okay to allow people to join the military, but they can't even have a beer. And soon they won't even be able to have a cigarette.
Im actually not sure what would change my view on this subject. I'm not really sure what could be said to me that wood convince me that it's okay to send somebody to potentially kill other people, but somehow drinking a beer is more detrimental to their health (or whatever other reason anybody can come up with for this law).
however, I am open to discussion, and I am certainly open to have in my view changed.
CMV
Edit: I keep seeing the same arguments over and over, just worded differently. Nobody has changed my view, and I have to go to work.
I just want to clarify that the entire point of my argument is that once the United States government views an individual as an adult, they should be able to make all of these decisions by themselves. If they consider 18 to be an adult, they should be able to make these decisions. the entire point of being considered an adult, is that the government recognizes that you are able to make your own decisions and take care of yourself and provide for yourself. But they don't trust you to have a drink or smoke. but of course they don't mind if you join the military, because that benefits them. and for everyone saying that drinking harms of the people, so does joining the military. Family sometimes don't get to see their children and loved ones for four or more years at a time. Not only that, but if that person dies in the military, the entire family is devastated. It may not be the same effects as drinking and driving and killing somebody on the road, but to say that the military and drinking aren't
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Many people smoke. If they realized this, that may push them towards quitting.
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Many more people know friends and family who smoke. This may push them to help their friends and family to quit.
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While this is a fact, I think it also constitutes a YSK as it's a fact related to how to do things / what to do, not just a fact that won't impact what people do.
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/health_effects/tobacco_related_mortality/index.htm
Here's an interesting study I found in the British Medical Journal (published June 2019) examining "differences in vaping and smoking prevalence among adolescents in Canada, England, and the United States". No login needed.
Some of the main findings, comparing 2017 data to 2018 (remember everything here refers to adolescents only):
- Prevalence of smoking increased in Canada and stayed the same in the US and England
- Prevalence of vaping increased in Canada and the US across most measures, while it stayed roughly the same in England
- Prevalence of vaping among never smokers or experimental smokers (< 100 lifetime) increased in the Canada and US across most measures, and no changes were observed in England
- Almost a third (28.1%) of 30 day vapers in the US reported Juul as their primary brand, an increase of almost 20% (from 9.4%). In England and Canada respectively, it went from 0% (it wasn't on the market yet) to 10.3% and 3.3%.
TL;DR: In most cases in US and Canada, more adolescents are taking up vaping, are vaping with increasing frequency, but not quitting smoking in higher rates, and the Juul is phenomenally popular. England is the notable exception, where largely nothing has changed.
Discussion
- Previous years of this data set showed adolescents regularly (15 days or more) vaping at much lower rates than smoking, "characterized by infrequent, experimental use." The gap has now closed, without any significant reduction in adolescent smoking rates.
- The increase in Juul use is consistent with Juul sales over the same period, suggesting adolescents are "almost entirely responsible" for Juul's overall growth in the US market. They also captured 10% of adolescents as regular users within a month of going on sale in Canada, despite only being the third most popular brand there (that is 10% of all adolescents, not just vapers).
- There are a number of possible reasons offered about why England has avoided the rapidly increasing prevalence of adolescent vaping: Juuls in the UK are limited to 20mg/l (less than half the content of the US and Canada Juul), limited retail availability, marketing restrictions on vaping products, and differences in public health messaging
- Probably the most controversial part of this study is that they directly link the availability of nic salt-focused devices like the Juul and other pod systems to the increased prevalence rates and frequency among adolescents, due to their sle
Introduced: Sponsor: Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL]
This bill was referred to the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs which will consider it before sending it to the Senate floor for consideration.
4 cosponsors are on that committee.
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Apparently 'on this day in history' back in 1909, the wife of the Russian Ambassador caused a "stir" during a white house function when she asked for a cigarette and became 'the first woman to smoke at a public function in the White House'.
This would seem to indicate that smoking was not considered an acceptable practice for women at this point in time. But in the '30s and '40s, the image of the femme fatale with cigarette in holder is a pretty enduring image, and by 1968 Virginia Slims is proclaiming "You've come a long way, baby" trying to push women smoking as a symbol of equality as they latch onto the coattails of feminism and women's lib. So from this, it would seem to indicate that the process was pretty gradual, but I was hoping someone could shed more light on the changing perspective on women smoking in the US.
Introduced: Sponsor: Rep. Eleanor Norton [D-DC0]
This bill was referred to the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure which will consider it before sending it to the House floor for consideration.
Rep. Eleanor Norton [D-DC0] is a member of the committee.
