Has anybody read this book? How does it compare/ does it work with 3% man?
I’ve been recommend this book tho it wasn’t from the redpill subreddit it is there aswell. The book is just how to break out of toxic behaviors and how to distance being a “nice guy” from a genuine nice guy. I’ll like to hear your guys thoughts. I personally don’t see it as a redpill book but I’ve been reading it with my therapist and it’s been helping me get to the roots of my issues
Hey guy´s,
I have now read Robert Glover's ebook. Now I wanted to ask if any of you had read it and how you thought of it. Do you think it's a good idea to get the bonus bundle? I mean it still costs $ 250. What do you think?
Another question would be who do you find better in terms of dating tips. Mark Manson or Robert Glover?
I’m sorry if this doesn’t fit the sub, but it’s a self help book so I thought it was okay. I have a lot of mixed feelings on it. For those unaware, it’s about men reclaiming their masculinity, being more assertive, how to cultivate friendships with other men, among other topics.
Scrolling through the comment section of many posts on this subreddit, I found that many people are having disagreements with the ideas present in No More Mr. Nice Guy and so I was curious to know more about it?
If you're a nice guy in a DB, just read the damn book. It's an easy read and you can find it online as an audio book.
Yes, I am getting more action directly as a result of using the lessons from the book.
Now. Go. Read it. Nuff said.
TLDR: read book get laid.
Me: HLM, 49, Her: LL*for me* F, 49.
Started reading No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Robert Glover last night.
I’d been hearing about this book in this sub for a while. Here’s what got me to start in on it.
Last week I had to travel for work, just far enough away that I was considering getting a room for the night instead of sucking it up and driving home late. I told my wife this and she seemed puzzled because usually, I do just drive home after these kinds of things. She asked me if there was anything I wasn't telling her. So I took the opportunity to bring up our dead bedroom by saying, “I know we haven’t been physical in a long time, but I just don’t have the energy for that kind of thing (meaning hooking up with a lady on the side). I just don’t.” And it was the god’s honest truth, too. I’ve been completely faithful in an almost 6-year completely dead bedroom.
My wife’s response was interesting. She said, “oh, I wasn’t concerned about that; I just wondered if maybe you were going to be partying with your co-workers after.”
As I turned this response around in my mind, I thought, does she actually not even care if I cheat? Has she been quietly getting her needs met elsewhere and not bothered to tell me? Are we even operating under the same understanding about our relationship anymore? We had been “open” for a while (long story; whole other can of worms) but my understanding is that we closed our marriage back around the same time the DB started.
Anyway, I’m now entertaining the possibility that I’ve just been a chump this whole time. I stopped initiating sex with my wife because I honestly felt like I was doing her a favor. And the way she’s acted since mostly supports that. But I’m sick of being nice and putting her needs (or whatever my flawed understanding of her needs is) before my own.
So I ordered NMMNG on Kindle and I’m in chapter three now. In the book, Dr. Glover suggests that I let my spouse know I’m doing this work. So in the interest of full disclosure, I ordered her a hard copy today. I will explain to her what precipitated my decision and that she can read the book or not, but I wanted her to have a copy just as part of my full disclosure of what I’m doing to change myself.
We shall see what happens.
It could be great for us or it could blow up in my face but somehow I think either result is preferable to maintaining the status quo, which absolutely sucks. I’ve put up with it far too long.
Thanks for listening, DB peeps. You’re awes
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After reading No More Mr. Nice Guy book and improving my life, i have read the book Dating Essentials for Men (DEFM) from Robert Glover. Now I've got the workbook. The DEFM workbook is designed to challenge to get out of the comfort zone, approaching women and practice new attitudes and skills. In the workbook there a lot of questions and assignments to do. Not only about dating, but also for improving life, social skills, self-esteem and to do the things that frightens me.
In the workbook Dr. Glover says: Don't do this work alone. Many Nice Guys and bad daters tend to isolate themselves and try to do everything on their own, which makes most things in life more difficult. So build a team to support you as you learn and apply the principles of Dating Essentials for Men.
So i am looking for a wingman that also wants to do the assignments or an accountability partner. I am from The Netherlands, but if you are from another country is also fine. We can keep each other accountable via whatsapp or reddit. Let me know!
I'll follow NMMNG whatever she thinks, but what I talk about is relevant to attraction.
MRP says "do not talk about Fight Club" and has NMMNG in the side bar.
NMMNG says on p. 18 "If you are currently in a relationship, I encourage you to ask your partner to read this book along with you."
To me it seems like bad advice if she has lost attraction to your faggot ass. If she is still attracted, talking about NMMNG won't increase that much, if at all, for most women. My guess is, it's probably unnecessary and hazardous.
Glover is a smart guy, but I think he missed the boat in this one instance. The only time it might come up usefully is in dread where she says "you're changing, what does all this mean? What's happening?" And handing her the book would be the answer to the comfort test, but only if she's on your side.
I think I know what guys are going to say here: "she's never on your side, she's on her own side."
It wasn't until I listened to the audiobook of this book that I realized I even had what could be considered a porn addiction. I figured watching some porn and fapping almost nightly was a common way to wind down before sleep. After listening to this book, I realized the hidden folder on my pc, full of porn...the folder of videos saved on my phone, the secret gallery of images on my phone, and the favorites list I had on Youjizz...was not normal. So yeah, I suggest reading or listening to this book for everyone here. Also...20 days and counting now!
Just a quote. Self-explanatory. STOP BEING A HOSTAGE OF YOUR DICK.
If you feel like you have to constantly act/behave in a certain way to please people, you have to read this book. (Man or woman). The book is loaded with insights on why you feel like you need to suppress your feelings/wants/desires to please other people. It will change the way you look at the world in a really good way. I was pretty skeptical at first, but as I started reading it kind of startled me how much it seemed like the author was staring into my life. Give it a read, you won't regret it!
First, let me preface this by saying that I used to pride myself on being such a nice person. I still think that being nice on some levels is important and there is no point in being a dick for the sake of it, but Glover's book goes so much deeper than this.
A typical Nice Guy is someone who:
- Puts others' needs above his
- Tries to be perfect and hide his flaws
- Is not respected and gets taken advantage of
- Is afraid to take risks and challenge himself
- Is uncomfortable expressing what they really feel or think
One of the most interesting parts of this book was Glover's talk about 'childhood abandonment experiences'. Most Nice Guys had a distant father-figure in their childhood. Children naturally become distressed at not having their emotional needs met, and thus as a survival mechanism they try to eliminate their needs in order to receive love in return. However, if this quality sticks around into adulthood, it can cripple your professional, social, and romantic relationships. Humans are naturally selfish to some degree, so it is incredibly unhealthy if you approach relationships with an expectation that putting others first will earn you love or affection.
All in all, I highly recommend reading the book for yourself (I'm sure someone can find the ebook online and post a link to it). I can't tell you enough how much this book has helped me to recognize what has been holding me back from getting what I want. The alternative to being a Nice Guy is not to be an asshole, but instead to be someone who is self-assured, empowered, and goes after what they want.
- Develop integrity; be honest and truthful in all interactions
- Don’t be afraid of the world or trying new things
- Learn to surrender yourself and let go of what you can’t change
- Do what YOU want to do instead of trying to constantly please others
- Learn how to receive and ask for help without feeling guilty or uncomfortable
- Recognize that you and everyone else is human, has flaws, and makes mistakes
- Stop trying to be perfect and flawless
- Stop seeking approval and external validation
- Learn to approve of yourself, and treat yourself to the things you deserve
- Stop building walls that prevent others from getting too close
- Stop trying to cover-up or distract attention from any perceived shortcoming
- Reflect on the childhood events and conditions that influence how you act today
- Set boundaries to prevent people from disrespecting or taking advantage of yo
Personally I have found all of these principles to be excellent rules of thumb:
-If it frightens you, do it.
-Don't settle. Every time you settle, you get exactly what you settle for.
-Put yourself first.
-No matter what happens, you will handle it.
-Whatever you do, do it 100%.
-If you do what you have always done, you will get what you have always got.
-You are the only person on this planet responsible for your needs, wants, and happiness.
-Ask for what you want.
-If what you are doing isn't working, try something different.
-Be clear and direct.
-Learn to say no.
-Don't make excuses.
Sam said Jon also spared people. Might be some foreshadowing that he does not wan't to make the same mistake Rob made with Karstark and spares glover also after seeing how many already died due to the dead and previous wars.
Though if Jon does not do it. Arya might since she already wanted to do it when they were speaking behind Jon's back at Winterfell.
Also what the FOOK happened to Lord Manderly. He teleported out of his allegiance.
For those who may not know, I was asked to speak again this year at the 21 convention. I don't get paid to go, it's about meeting other men who I normally wouldn't, and giving value while I'm there. Still working on getting a good theme for this year, I spoke on dread last year, a narrative format of the one our own professor has written about already
Last year had Joe Navarro, which was really cool. this year they got Dr. Robert Glover. Fucking first guy on the sidebar, cool!
If you, like me, are interested in meeting him, I have an affiliate link Here
If you don't want to pay the premium rate, or don't have the time to sneak off to Orlando this fall, They are posted up on his 21University site here. If you go this route, I'd suggest Joe Navarro's speech on body language, mine on dread, And all the Rollo stuff to start with, but it's got a rather large listing of speakers that are worth listening to, and I don't want to make a shopping list. It's like TED talks, only not super gay.
Also, if you're interested, but have some concerns, PM me and I'll see if I can help.
And the rest of the full disclosure stuff, This isn't tied to marriedredpill in anyway other than content, the links to 21 con are affiliates. If you like it, and are interested, great. If not, I know a few regulars here have gone in the past, and may be going this year, I'm sure you'll get some good field reports out of it.
shoutout /u/chumpnomore and /u/dirtypr. Met them (and some of their buddies) last time, and it was nice. the MRP guys were really well put together, it's nice to know we aren't LARPING faggots ...
As a die-hard ASOIAF fan, this is embarrassing to admit.
You see, I've "read" the books twice now, but only through audiobooks and the brilliant narration of Roy Dotrice. In searching for what happened to Tim McInnerys character and why he hadn't appeared in the final season, I read that his name was Robett and not Robert as I had previously thought (and heard).
Oh, and I never found out why his character wasn't brought back so feel free to share. Figured it was a contract dispute.
Good day/evening to all of you!
With 41 votes No More Mr Nice Guy has been chosen as our book for June. This is our 27th book, but has been suggested several times since we started. There will be a new vote for what we will read in July and August after this one.
Everyone is welcome to read along and discuss the chapters separately in our discussion threads. These are posted according to the schedule found below. At the end, a final discussion takes place to review and tie together all concepts in the book.
/r/BettermentBookClub does not only aim to digest self-improvement type information, we apply it. The main purpose of the discussion is to share your insights on the practical advice in the book. If you feel like discussing related topics, the writing style, the author etc. that is also allowed.
No More Mr Nice Guy is about masculinity, and consequences of the "Nice Guy Syndrome".
Description of Robert A. Glover's book:
"Dr. Robert Glover has dubbed the "Nice Guy Syndrome" trying too hard to please others while neglecting one's own needs, thus causing unhappiness and resentfulness. It's no wonder that unfulfilled Nice Guys lash out in frustration at their loved ones, claims Dr. Glover. He explains how they can stop seeking approval and start getting what they want in life, by presenting the information and tools to help them ensure their needs are met, to express their emotions, to have a satisfying sex life, to embrace their masculinity and form meaningful relationships with other men, and to live up to their creative potential."
"One of the most life changing books I have read and applied to my life. Though the title expresses at first glance that this a "be mean to get your way" book that is not what this book is about. It is about getting free from the Nice Guy syndrome. Being free to get your own needs met and gaining the strength to bring change to current situations and the strength to walk away from intolerable situations instead of trying a million ways to please others in the hope that they will return the favor."
##Discussion schedule
The book is less than 200 pages, so reading 10 pages a day is enough to keep up with the discussion.
| Date | Tag | Chapters |
|---|---|---|
| 11 Jun | [B27-Ch. 1-2] | The Nice Guy Syndrome, The Making of a Nice Guy |
15 J
... keep reading on reddit ➡After reading No More Mr. Nice Guy book and improving my life, i have read the book Dating Essentials for Men (DEFM) from Robert Glover. Now I've got the workbook. The DEFM workbook is designed to challenge to get out of the comfort zone, to approach women and practice new attitudes and skills. In the workbook there a lot of questions and assignments to do. Not only about dating, but also for improving life, social skills, self-esteem and to do the things that frightens me.
In the workbook Dr. Glover says: Don't do this work alone. Many Nice Guys and bad daters tend to isolate themselves and try to do everything on their own, which makes most things in life more difficult. So build a team to support you as you learn and apply the principles of Dating Essentials for Men.
So i am looking for a wingman that also wants to do the assignments or an accountability partner. I am from The Netherlands, but if you are from another country is also fine. We can keep each other accountable via whatsapp, reddit or skype. Let me know!
Was thinking about reading this book so I want your opinion on it?
