Hello. I would like to request non fiction Book recommendations on the Oghuz turkic tribes, their history, culture, society, daily life, especially those that migrated out of the steppe into the middleast and Indian subcontinent and set up their own states during the 10th-12th centuries. Also if there are any historical fiction books based on this setting i would like them as well. Thank you everyone.

This was way past the time where they looked like mongols, they had already been mixing with Persians and other ethnicities after they migrated and converted to Islam. They didn't look like mongols

And if any of them comprehends injustice or something unpleasant happens to him, he will raise his head to the sky and say: “Bir tengri”, and this is in Turkic “[I swear] by one God”, since “bir” in Turkic "one", and "tengri" in the Turkic language - "creator"

I've been seeing a lot of foreigners in Reddit and generally all of social media who don't exactly comprehend what it means to be a Turk? There are many misconceptions on this subject so I decided to clarify as much as I can.

Firstly we need to understand the difference between Turk, Turkish and Turkic. Turkic is a language family originated around Central Asia and Siberia, Turk is a person whose mother tongue belongs in the Turkic group and raised by culture of Turks, Turkish is one of the many subgroups under the Turk identity. Turkish belong to Oghuz tribe of Turks as well as Azerbaijani and Turkmens. The important part is Oghuz, Turkmen, Kazakh, Altai etc. are not different ethnicites but different tribes or tribal confederations of the same ethnicity. Some of you may have some questions like: "How can people of same ethnicity have a very diverse genetic structure amongst them?" which I will answer as you continue to read.

European cultures mostly define ethnicity based on ancestry and genetics but unlike European cultures Turkic culture defines ethnicity based on language-culture and in Turkic culture the concept of ancestry is mostly spiritual excluding the case of dynasites. The reason for that is first ever Turks appeared in Central Asia and Siberia as a confederation of many Eurasian Nomadic Tribes who, by living in the same region under same conditions, developed the same language and culture. But these tribes that were parts of these confederations, despite having the same culture and language, came from many different genetic backgrounds, mostly Mongoloid and Europid and their various subgroups, this is the reason why Turks of the world are extremely diverse. Through the ancient records Chinese kept we know that Turks were very diverse even during their first emergance in history, their looks ranged from slanted eyes to almond eyes, black hair to blonde and even red hair, light skin to brunette skin etc. So through this knowledge we know that Turks did not base their identity on genetics, phenotype or genetic ancestry but language, culture and loyalty. After hearing that our enemies refered to us as Turks, everyone in these confederations started to refer themselves as Turks and thus the first ever Turks emerged. In conclusion even the first Turks were as genetically diverse as the modern Turks of today and our ethnicity is developed as an identity based on language and culture. This inital diversity among Turks also the main reason why Weste

Seriously, you can be Turkic and of Mongol descent at the same time- trying to unravel the two is difficult since the Mongol empire was so prolific and all of their descendants ended up being Turkified.

Timur, Babur, Shaybani etc are all Mongol rulers who became Turkified and are the crux of the Uzbek identity just as the Pre-Mongol Karluk Turks were. Examples of important Karluk figures include Muhammad II, Jalal Al Din Mangburni (gigachad Karluk who resisted the Mongols, Seljuks and evaded constant threats to his throne at the same time), Mahmud of Ghaznavi and his father Sabuktigin (a Karluk slave from modern day Kyrgyzstan who rose up the ranks and actually founded the Ghaznavid Empire but for some reason his son gets all the credit).

In fact, even though the Turks were living in Central Asia 700-900 years before the Mongols, the Mongol kings who ended up converting to Islam were the main drivers behind the Turkic identities today. Without them, there would be no such thing as Uzbek, Kazakh, Nogai or Tatar.

It's also very possible that the Central Asian Turkic language would have fizzled out or been even more Persified if it weren't for their standardization of our languages. They united the tribes and shaped their culture and identity into who they are now. Without them, Uzbeks alone would have been fragmented into Karluk, Kipchak and Oghuz (modern day Afghan Uzbeks would probably have called themselves Karluk or Kipchak). Then, we would have had Kyrgyz, Uyghurs and Turkmens (their names are ancient and predate the Mongols).

This is because the Uzbek name was given to us by the Mongols. Our people were named after the first Mongol king to convert to Islam, Öz Beg Khan, who overthrew the Mongols that disapproved of Islam and converted his khanate into a sultanate. Even though he ruled over Eastern Europe, the Caucasus and Kazakhstan, he is very well known because of his conversion, his long-lasting reign, his large armies and his diplomacy which catapulted the Golden Horde into it's zenith.

There isn't one Turk on this planet that doesn't have Mongol blood except, perhaps, the Chuvash, Gagauz and maybe Istanbul Turks. Yet I see Afghan Uzbeks and Hazaras saying they aren't of Mongol stock, even though DNA studies have proven this? It's not a bad thing to be descended from Mongolians, we aren't responsible for the crimes of our ancestors. Nobody blames Tajiks or Pashtuns for the crimes o

Hello everyone. I am a turk and did a dna test a few weeks ago. Well I got it back and found out I am Pontic greek.

Some of my friends have been pointing out my appearance not looking very turkish, some even teasing me and daring me to do one of these tests these Youtubers do. I've researched them (since they're really expensive, didn't want to pick the wrong one) and chose ancestry dna for the communities.

I've always read stories about "Turkified peoples" but I never thought I myself would be one of them. My parents always said they're proud turks. My grandpa says we're of Nomad descent.

It's weird to take this in after a few decades of "knowing" something. Are these tests accurate? What does it mean to be pontic greek? What's the difference between Pontic Greeks and normal greeks? Didn't the greek dispora disappear after the population exchange? So many damn questions. How am I gonna tell my father about this? He was pretty excited and wanted to know how oghuz he was.

I'd really appreciate your thoughts/information on all of this 🙏.

Hi again. Three weeks ago I posted about a project I'm working on. For those who haven't seen it yet:

>So, I am embarking on an interesting project. I intend to experience the best art and media humanity has to offer before I die. Namely this is all the highly notable and interesting books, plays, art, music, films, TV shows, and video games. I guess you could call it a bucket list. I've been indexing it chronologically and downloading it to an external hard drive.

I then solicited suggestions for highly notable/significant ancient and medieval literature that I was missing from an early draft of what the list would cover. I got over 100 responses; it was clear I was missing a lot. So, I pretty much started from scratch, doing multiple sweeps of any pre-Renaissance literature, and incorporated many of the suggestions I received, ranging from missing individual works to missing authors and cultures.

I should also note that in order to prevent this list from becoming unwieldly, I am limiting myself to 10,000 entries total, forcing myself to take a more deliberate and top-down approach. So far, I have 261 entries for the time span 4000 BC to 1400 AD: 12 Ancient-era, 121 Classical-era, and 128 Medieval-era works. 251 are literature, 10 are music. In other words, 2.61% of the list is Medieval era works or earlier, which seems quite reasonable to me and leaves plenty of room for more modern works spanning across more mediums.

I thought I would share what I have so far before I begin work on more modern stuff. Note that bolded entries are in the top 1,000 works, the cream of the crop, the most notable of all. If you're following along with me and don't want it to take a decade or longer to get through the whole completed list, just sticking to the bolded entries will give you a good taste too.

Ancient Era (4000 BC - 1001 BC)

Currently we have:

Aserai=Arabs.

Battania=Celtic, Early Germanic, Thracian tribes.*

Khuzait=Turks and Mongols.*

Empire=Romans (specifically Eastern Rome, however, the civil war is undoubtedly inspired from the crisis of the 3rd century: Rhagaea=Zenobia, Lucon=Tetricus, and Garios=Aurelian).

Sturgia=Kievan Rus (Slavic and Nordic).

Vlandia=Normans.

???Ariana???(Putting a name out there)=Iranian (Persians are Iranians, FYI).

I feel like when the game is complete, TaleWorlds and the playerbase would benefit from an Iranian DLC faction.

First off the Iranians are a distinct people from the Arabs, and the culture and weaponry that would come from an inclusion of an Iranian inspired faction would be great, and add some unique additional diversity to this game we all enjoy.

Case and point: The "Panjagan": A crossbow which is hypothesized to have shot 5 bolts at once. Which was wielded by the Persian Savaran (Knights).

Iranian Cataphracts: It is also noteworthy to include the detail that the Iranians were the first people to develop cataphracts, and the cataphracts of the Sassanians were noted by Roman writers of being able to penetrate two men at once with their lance. The 3.6 meter (12 feet) long Iranian lance could be added with the penalty of it being required to be used with two hands, and not one while on horseback. Thus preventing the player from duel using a shield with lance, making it a high risk-high reward weapon. The most heavily armored cataphracts of the time were the Pushtigban cataphracts which numbered 1,000 strong. The cream of the crop of the Pushtigban were the Gyan-Avspar (sacrificers of their lives) which numbered 100 men. They could be one of the possible pathways for the Iranian noble unit, but more on that later. Weapons: lance, sword, shield, mace.

Iranian Horse Archers: Another noteworthy fact to include is the ability to loose an arrow on horseback at any angle. The famous Parthian Shot was a technique developed by the Iranian peoples who roamed the Central Asian steppe, before the arrival of the Huns (Turks). These people were the Scythians and the Parthians were a part of that group which came into conflict with the Romans who coined the term. Heavily armored like the Pushtigban cataphracts the [Zhayedan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortals_(Sasan