Unpopular Opinion: I don't think Michael Franzese deserves all the hate he gets

There are many commenters on this subreddit who say he's still a "grifter" and that he's just making money off his crimes, just differently, etc.

However, my take is different. The man was tried, convicted, served his time (8 years), and since then has not re-offended. This in and of itself is an impressive change for a career criminal. Most people in his line of work end up turning back to the life of crime, and sometimes escalating the severity of their delinquent behavior. He's raised 7 children and has had a successful marriage as well.

In addition to this, Michael has gone around doing his best to educate youth about why they shouldn't turn to a life of crime, etc. Yes, he gets paid to speak and doesn't do it for free, but it's a legitimate form of income. He's not defrauding the elderly, running insurance scams, or some other scam. He's well within the bounds of the law and is making an honest buck.

Additionally, I find that his interviews with Valuetainment and also the videos he posts on his YouTube channel are highly informative and have a treasure trove of information for those of us who are interested in the history of organized crime. As the phrase goes, "those who ignore history, are doomed to repeat it."

Also, I appreciate the fact that he is critical of his own past behavior. While people like to say "he always talks about the gasoline scam," he never talks about it like it's something he would want to do again. He just explains from an objective standpoint, how the scam worked. Over and above that he's emphasized that the Mafia life is not "normal" by any means, and actively decries the kind of bad things the Mafia did back in the day.

All in all, that's my two cents, take it or leave it. Same could be said of Michael Franzese. He says his viewpoint, and at the end of the day we're free to disregard it. However, I don't think it's fair to keep kicking him after he's already paid his debt to society.

Sammy Gravano on the other hand...

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Michael Franzese was made in 1978 after the murder of Americus Scotese according to Sal Miciotta lcnbios.blogspot.com/2018…
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Why doesn't the Mafia go after ex mobsters turned YouTubers like Michael Franzese and Sammy Gravano?

Literally, they broke the 1# rule in the Mafia. There's no walking away from that life, and yet, they somehow walk away alive for so long

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Tony Sirico vs. Michael Franzese as historical sources

Michael Franzese: There was no rivalry between the Italian-Americans and the Blacks

Meanwhile Tony Sirico: We were fighting [...]Blacks

I know who I'd rather believe, lol

https://youtu.be/ggME8xMokIg?t=330

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxddINwarJk&t=220s

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So This Stunad Michael Franzese... (Rant)

claims that Livia Soprano is based on his mom.

Franzese, former Colombo capo, and now evangelical Christian motivational speaker, who prides himself on never co-operating, and glorifying the fact that he never sold drugs while operating a massive gas tax scam, claims that David Chase called him up in the mid-90s to be a consultant for The Sopranos. Despite his refusal, Chase somehow cribbed the idea off him. This is the show that Franzese says with full conviction is the greatest show of all time, despite the fact that he then says he only watched S1, most of S2, bits and pieces of 3-6, and the ending.

Why does this, of all things, piss me off, when this is a literal murderer making the claim?

It's because it's such obviously verifiable bullshit. He was banged up on fraud charges, never murder, so of couse he's not going to confess on camera to a crime that has no statute of limitations. His other lies serve a purpose, like his evangelical hustle and book tours. That and his rambling videos where he repeats the same thing over and over, then interrupts himself to repeat himself again. Life as a mobster? 16 minutes of "I drove ta Brooklyn and I sat in a social club and, uh did what my capo and the boss wanted me to do. Sometimes I did other things.'.

Some of the rest is sanitizing his own history to convince himself- he had to drop out of pre-med at Hofstra which he was totally not flunking because Bobby Kennedy hated his dad Sonny and framed him for the one murder he never did, and a life of crime was the only way. Also LCN took murder very seriously and never dealt drugs and there were only a few bad apples.

But the Livia thing? Why bother lying about that, there is zero gained.

The hustle never stops for one of those guys.

Anyway, I'm $4 a pound...

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How did Michael Franzese get out but Eugene Pontecorvo couldn't

Eugene couldn't go down to Florida with his family and retire like he's in the Navy but you got this YouTube star banking on his stories of life in the Mafia

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I think Michael Franzese would beat the shit out of Sammy The Bull in a real fight.

I'm just saying Sammy didn't seem like a tough guy, but a bitch.

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Hot take theory-if it wasn’t for the Third Colombo war, Michael Franzese wouldn’t still be alive.

My personal theory on why the Colombos didn’t have him killed.

Persico and possibly his dad were likely so damn focused on eliminating the Orena faction that they more or less forgot about Michael. Likely they just told him or implied to him that if he never came back to New York he’d be left alone. Feel free to disagree.

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Can anyone explain in plain English how Michael Franzese's gas tax scheme works? How does he earned over $500,000 just by simply selling gas and how does he exactly "defraud" the government that is tax evasion?
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How far did Michael Franzese get in college?

Michael Franzese constantly talks about how he was a pre-med student before going into the mob. But how far did he get in college? Did he get an associate's, bachelor's, or did he ever actually start med school but never finished?

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Sammy the Bull's resentment towards Michael Franzese is almost palpable

Seriously hilarious how mad he is at Michael. He calls Sonny Franzese Michael's stepfather based on a rumor. Michael tells him according to his mother (the only person who REALLY knows) that Sonny is his biological father, Sammy goes "I heard he isn't."

Sammy says Michael got made as a favor to Sonny. Michael says to Sammy this isn't true. Sammy goes on to say "that's what I heard."

Michael says he brought in three Russians who couldn't get licensed for the gas business and that Iorizzo is the one who came up with the scheme. Sammy who wasn't even involved says he heard the Russians created it.

Now I understand why Michael blew up at Sammy in the post sitdown. Sammy thinks he knows every damn thing in the world because he's heard X or Y. He's even gonna tell Michael about his own family, criminal records, what Michael did or didn't do, despite admitting he didn't know Michael all that well.

I don't wanna play favorites but the insecurity stemming from Sammy is so glaring I almost laugh. To him, Cosa Nostra was everything and he turned into the biggest snitch in mob history. That Michael, a well-off kid who didn't care all that much about the mob, made more money than he did and got out without having the reputation as the biggest rat in the mafia obviously rubs him the wrong way.

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Did any of Michael Franzese's sons try to get involved with the mob?

Michael Franzese has 7 children. I know that a couple them are boys. He has one kid that he says "Got onto some trouble" but he doesn't go into detail. Did Grampa Sonny Franzese ever get any of them involved in the mob and try to get them to pick up where Michael left off?

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Michael Franzese Parole was Violated Because He Stole $250,000 More
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How does the Mob feel about Michael Franzese blabbing and yapping everyday about this thing of ours to millions of people?

On the one hand he didn’t snitch. No he really didn’t, the only testimony he gave was about Norbie Walters who not only wasn’t a made guy but who wasn’t even a street guy more of a corrupt civilians. And on top of it the secrets are al out everyone knows all about LCN these days there has been mass public interest ever since The Godfather and dozens of guys have flipped and spilled the beans

On the other hand here’s (from their perspective maybe) this douchebag who walked away from the life and is now yapping about it disavowing it spilling more beans about our lifestyle and making money from it. Fuckin disgrace, yea it could had been worse he could had flipped but Phil did 20 years in the can and never said a fuckin peep,

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$39.99 to watch the Sammy the Bull vs Michael Franzese interviews. youtu.be/OKsDLGgUlx4
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Michael Franzese's Ridiculous Review of The Sopranos Movie youtube.com/watch?v=kswba…
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Whether anybody liked or disliked MSON, at the very least it was good to trigger this con-man Michael Franzese enough to expose himself with a race baiting hypocritical review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggME8xMokIg

Essentially for a TL;DW, according to Michael: The italian mob absolutely didn't hate black people in the 60s, He takes issue with literally every scene that puts the mafia in a bad light, from the stepmom being with dickie and the black guy to every scene of domestic violence where mob guys hit their wives and goomahs. He literally says with a straight face that mobsters were not abusive to their partners and that it was offensive that mob guys were so badly portrayed as abusive and racist and dysfunctional. Guy goes the race baiting route and by claiming this was also offensive to italian americans somehow.

In the starting of it he literally threatens chase saying he wishes he was still a mob guy if he ever saw Chase.

"Reformed Christian ex mob guy" what a pisciadu.

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Sammy Gravano "Assaults" Michael Franzese during a Sit Down [FULL / EXTENDED] youtu.be/DRUtD2gBFzM
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Has anyone seen Michael Franzese reacting to the Many Saints of Newark? It's worth a laugh. Several hilarious minutes of "I'm offended by this" "italians disliking black people, that never happened why put that in!" "are you trying to be woke,..." "(btw I'm offended x7)" LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggME8xMokIg

I know the movie is known to be poor quality, he just didn't even review it just huffed and puffed about being offended while riding his mob bona fides then acting like an offended choir boy again.

Bonus he shoehorns in "Oh I want to have a 'sit down' with you David Chase".. This guy is a joke lol.

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Thumbnail for Michael Franzese's latest video before it was changed
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Michael Franzese Ordering Killings of Russian Crime Figures

I've seen a article about the Russian Mafia in the U.S and it talks about Gaspipe and Michael Franzese.

https://www.rferl.org/a/1080512.html - Article

This article claims that "Michael Franzese admitted to ordering the murders of other Russian crime figures who tried to push their way in on the action. He said, "when they threatened our biggest moneymaker, they threatened our family." He said the Russians had "little" fear of U.S. prisons and "absolutely no respect" for U.S. law."

Does that not give him the approval to talk about certain killings he might've been involved in?

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Life or Death- A Mafia Sit Down I'll Never Forget | Michael Franzese youtube.com/watch?v=bQxDy…
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Nothing Personal (Larry Carrozza and Michael Franzese 2011 documentary) youtube.com/watch?v=yvDig…
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β€˜I’m not a rat, I’m a betrayer,’ Michael Franzese, 2021
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My Beef With Sammy "The Bull" Gravano | Mob Story Monday with Michael Franzese youtu.be/EHx-yf8haPw
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Michael β€œThe Gas Scam” Franzese With Barack Obama Having A Good Time
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The Mafia's Hand In The Drug Business | Michael Franzese youtu.be/KaURYqIIkHo
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Michael Franzese | Colombo Crime Family | Cry Of The City (1984) youtu.be/ZY3TMklyNiA
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The only thing that's worse than Newark is the review of Newark by Michael Franzese

It's so lame and full of shit that its actually funny to hear him. The guy does 2 things: reads the synopsis and acts like he's offended. He says shit like it's offensive to Italian Americans while it's clear that the characters in the movie don't represent them anyways. Literally zero depth.

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Michael Franzese: Did I Really Threaten The King Of Pop: Michael Jackson? youtu.be/klTKAIqTOHI
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Michael Franzese on John Alite "I Never Met the Guy, I Never Heard of the Guy" on Gianni Russo: "He's Almost a Comedy Act" (Valuetainment Short Clips) youtu.be/qSOEoXKKH0o?t=1
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Michael Franzese

I’ve been watching some of Michael Franzese’s youtube videos. Does anyone know what the mob thinks of him? Do they dislike/hate him, do they see him as a traitor, do they see him as a poser (as in his stories are embellished or made up). I mean, I think he’s credible. I’m just here seeking a more informed opinion.

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What do you think of Michael Franzese’s claim that Jimmy Hoffa’s killer is still alive, but will likely never get out of prison?

I’ve only recently gone down the Mafia rabbit hole, so apologies if this is a topic that’s been discussed to death already. I recently watched this video, where Franzese states that his personal Hoffa killer candidate is still alive, though he is likely never ever getting out of prison.

What do you think of this? Would you say that Franzese is a credible guy to begin with, or are his videos just another story that someone exaggerates or embellishes for money? If you do think he is telling the truth and that the man Franzese believes to be Hoffa’s killer is still alive, who do you think it might be? The killer being alive should narrow the list down quite a bit, after all. Due to my admitted limited knowledge of the mafia’s history so far, really only one guy comes to mind, and that’s James Coonan. As far as I know, he was already implicated in the killing by one former Mafia hitman (though admittedly, the second part of that story is incredibly stupid, the part about Hoffa being buried under Giants Stadium….), and is 75 years old, and isn’t scheduled for release until 2030. I don’t have enough knowledge to say that it’s definitely him that Franzese is talking about, just naming the only possibly relevant guy that I can think of at the moment.

Thoughts?

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(1986) Knights Of The City, AKA Cry Of The City was a film produced by Michael Franzese who was in the mafia and charged with racketeering. Guest stars Kurtis Blow and Smokey Robinson. youtube.com/watch?v=X-Ynk…
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(Mostly) Government Excerpts on Michael Franzese imgur.com/gallery/MOYAXT9
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Quitting the Mob (1992) – Michael Franzese – Book Review mafiabookreviews.com/2021…
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How many soldiers were in Michael Franzese's crew

It seems that his crew was one of the most powerful ones in the Colombos, he said in an interview that there were 300 people under him (soldiers and associates combined), and that they were making up to 8 million per week, wow.

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Powerful Mafia Boss: Vincent "The Chin" Gigante, The Godfather with Michael Franzese youtube.com/watch?v=v16R4…
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The Sit Down: Michael Franzese' often forgotten short lived Food Channel Reality TV series youtube.com/playlist?list…
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PBD Podcast W/ Michael franzese
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Valuetainment Guys Interviewed Sammy Gravano & Michael Franzese Separately
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FairLaunch - Sunday 9/12 at 4 pm EST - THIS SUNDAY, SICILY COMES TO THE BINANCE SMART CHAIN.

The $MAFIA project combines the best elements of memecoins with the long term use case of an NFT gaming project featuring minigames, a dedicated marketplace, and an eventual action / strategy game (MOB CITY), funded in part by an angel investor.

Project is relaunching due to contract error missed by the solidityproof.io -- for once that's bullish on the long term project. $100k in liquidity to scam contracts -- just proves we have a lot of traction.

NOTE: CA is 0x064397077dd20CCbE94731762F25f4afAc996622

sponsored by Michael Franzese, β€œThe Prince of the Mafia”: ex-Capo billionaire of the Colombo Crime family and greatest earner πŸ’° for la cosa nostra of ALL TIME (check YouTube).

✏️ FairLaunch - SUNDA 9/12 at 4 pm EST

Key Features:

Reaudit Incoming βœ…

Slightly Changed Tokenomics:

πŸ’°6% BNB Rewards kicked up to each member of the family from the streets πŸ”₯

πŸ’΅2% Liquidity

🐳Anti-Whale (Limits each sell order to only 0.25% of the supply, and for the first hour of the fair launch, buy orders limited to 0.25% of the supply as well

πŸ“ˆAuto Buy Back (2% tax on sells πŸ”ͺgoes to buying back $MAFIA and burning it forever)

🏦6% BNB reflection to Game Development Wallet: vision for the project is chain migration or even cross chain gaming functionality, thanks to the reflection system, developers will never need to sell tokens or depress the price.🎨In house game designers are artists

πŸ™OmertΓ‘ Oath Tokenomics

LINKS:

🌐: mafiatoken.com

πŸ’¬TG: t.me/mafiatokenfamily

Twitter: twitter.com/token_mafia/

OpenSea: opensea.io/collection/mafiatoken

There will come a day when you may be called upon to do a service for this family. But until that day, accept this coin as a gift on the day of our project's fair launch. - Vito Corleone

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