In my personal opinion, I believe Cat Noir and Ladybug could've still known each other's identity without any problems. The only way Shadow Moth found out Adrien was Cat Noir is because he called Marinette "Milady" Over the phone and It was never shown that he was suspicious beyond that point. If he never called her milady or if Gabriel just gave his son some damn privacy even would be fine! Besides we could also see in a montage that it has also helped their work. Ladybug could call Adrien's personal number and not his Cat Noir's number. But I dunno. What do y'all think?

Intro

Many writers of western cartoons use social media to interact with fans and form a relationship with respective fandoms. From Noelle Stevenson who created a child of the main couple during one livestream to Alex Hirsh who loves joking with his fandom on Twitter. So when Thomas Astruc (one of the creators of Miraculous) started answering questions of his young fans, almost nobody was suprised.

Unfortunately, fandoms tend to be volatile and almost anything can start a reaction. One of the biggest dramas with Thomas Astruc started due to the final of season 3. To be more specific, it started due to one character, Chloe Bourgeois.

What is Miraculous?

To quote Wikipedia, "it is a French CGI superhero / magical girl children's television series. The series focuses on two Parisian teenagers, Marinette Dupain-Cheng and Adrien Agreste, who transform into the superheroes Ladybug and Cat Noir, respectively, to protect the city from supervillains."

The showed gained popularity due to multiple reasons like the strong female lead, reinvented love triangle (the love square) and the atmosphere of Paris. Especially the second bit stole hearts of fangirls and ignited imagination of multiple artists.

Who is Chloe?

Chloe can be simply described as cliche mean girl that ticks off almost all boxes. She is an ignorant (telling a Chinese man to make sushi), insanely rich, snobbish bully with blond hair and heavy make-up. And of course, she bullies the main character and tries to steal her spotlight.

Basically imagine The Plastics from Mean Girls, but with yellow instead of pink.

The fandom's first reaction to Chloe (Season 1)

To fully understand how Chloe led to the drama, we must go back to the beginning.

Like I've mentioned previously, Chloe is a cliche mean girl and in first season, she was only that. She served as a source of multiple conflicts and a butt-monkey for multiple jokes, which is fairly logical if we consider a fact that the series was fairly episodic and many characters were [just](https://miraculousladyb

Inspired by u/Comaleau's post: https://reddit.com/r/miraculousladybug/comments/qejklu/comment_on_this_post_with_your_villain_name_and/

Give me some villains to write about!

In Oblivio, he says “the love you secretly have for each other will be your downfall” because he witnessed all of the events of Oblivio without having his memory erased. So, when the miraculous ladybugs fixed everything, it didn’t affect his memory of what happened, meaning he retained his knowledge of Ladybug and Cat Noir being in love, right??? Does he ever utilize that knowledge in the future? Like in Cat Blanc for example, do the writers ever capitalize on the fact that he knows, or did they forget that he’s supposed to know? PLEASE NO SPOILERS FOR SEASON 4 PAST MEGA LEECH.

Hey, does anyone have any real good pictures of ladybug and cat noir. The subreddit r/dontpausemlb clearly shows that I cannot get them myself so I was wondering if anyone had any over here! Thanks in advance!

Do you think that Ladybug and Cat Noir have a little bit of their kwami's characters infused into them, after transformation? Ladybug becomes more responsible and less clumsy just like Tikki and Cat Noir becomes more humorous and less responsible like Plagg.

Guys I found out somethings about shadow moth for starters his real name starts with G he got the miraculouses a long time ago and he is at least 42 years old

Ok so, I’ve been thinking about this for awhile. In ephemeral, it’s revealed that Joan of Arc was a Ladybug which I thought was super cool. And, we know from The Pharaoh episode that there have been Ladybugs (and presumably Cat Noirs) since the Egyptian civilization. ALSO Plagg says that no Cat Noirs have ever been romantically successful with Ladybugs either. I guess I was wondering, for debates sake, what headcannons you guys might have for past Cat Noirs? Like historical figures or important people? I don’t think any past Cat Noirs have been revealed, but if they have I would love to know.

You all wanting to know Ladybug's and cat noir's secret identities

Ladybug is Ariana Grande and Cat noir is John Cena

There you go

I would like some more flashback scenes after they realize and find out their indentities

And let us atleast have a adrienette kiss after that

And Gloob better not spoil that in any way they already had enough fun spoiling the episode wishmaker

Here are some Flashback scenes i would like

" Cat noir, You know you are irreplaceable "

" You and me against the world my Lady"

" As Always"

" You are our every day Ladybug"

" Plagg what if Marinette was Ladybug"

" Whoever is beneath that mask i love that girl"

" You are more than just a partner to me Cat noir You are my Friend"

" Pound it"

There are still other other i would like

To Cat noir ,

Furry Cat

Stop Hitting on My babysitter and calling her princess She has a boyfriend Adrien Agreste and he wouldn't like it

To Ladybug,

Stop Hitting on My babysitter's Boyfriend i don't appreciate this from you tiny little bug Adrienette must sail

And go date that Pesky Furry Cat of yours

Adrien is taken by Marinette 😡😡

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##Intro

#Marinette Dupain-Cheng, the Miraculous Ladybug!

> "Hawk Moth, no matter how long it takes, we will find you; and you will hand us your miraculous!"

In the daytime, Marinette Dupain-Cheng is your average 14-year-old French girl. She's friendly, a bit quirky, and a bit of a fashionista. But when evil comes, she'll use her force to save the day as one of Paris's best heroes: the Miraculous Ladybug.

Long ago, powerful artifacts called miraculouses were found by the reclusive fashion tycoon Gabriel Agreste. When he and his wife Emilie abused their powers, Mrs. Agreste fell into a terrible slumber, prompting the widower to use his newfound powers for evil with the hopes of reviving her.

In a desperate measure to save the world, Wang Fu--an exiled guardian of the miraculouses--bestowed two more to kind-hearted teenagers who he knew would save the day. Though initially reluctant (and inexperienced), Marinette learned to use hers to fight for good as the cleverly named heroine, Ladybug.

^Notice: ^This ^respect ^thread ^contains ^a ^few ^scans ^from ^the ^Miraculous ^Adventures ^comics, ^which ^are ^dubious ^in ^terms ^of ^canon. ^Feats ^from ^this ^series ^don't ^necessarily ^contradict ^feats ^from ^the ^main ^canon ^((or vice-versa)^), ^so ^they ^are ^included ^here. ^Also, ^while ^there ^are ^8 ^issues ^of ^the ^comic ^released, ^only ^1-3 ^have ^useable ^scans ^ripped.

##Things to know

• Kwamis: Kwamis are powerful cosmic beings that embody abstract ideas and emotions in the universe. They have power over said concept and can bestow their owners said powers via their assigned miraculous. Kwamis can't normally interact with living things and aimlessly roamed the universe in the past. However, when an unnamed mage invented the miraculouses, they could finally form physical bodies using said artifacts as an anchor.

• Miraculouses: Miraculouses are ancient jewels initially built to not only communicate with kwamis but also control their immense power. A kwami's power is far too dangerous to use by themselves, so when used, the miraculouses can restrain kwamis' abilities for localized use. Kwamis are stored inside their respective miraculouses by default, but th

This show is…interesting. It’s hated by a lot of people, loved by a lot of people, and there are people who are neutral about it. I personally loved this show for a while, and then I heard about how much people disliked it on the Internet and started to dislike it also, but then I had to realize that people’s opinions shouldn’t affect the way I view a show myself. So I told myself, do I love or hate this show? Well, surprise surprise, I honestly love it, but I know that it’s extremely flawed, which is fine, cause no show is perfect.

Now epiphany aside, I want to ask you, what’s your favorite thing about the show? My favorite thing about the show are the characters, specifically, Marinette’s class. Besides Lila(and Chloe to an extent), her whole class just seems to love and care about each other so much, from most of them giving Mrs. Bustier a birthday gift to them making a video to console Adrien about his mother. They’re just so wholesome and fun to watch. I’ve heard people call them boring and/or annoying, but I honestly disagree since they’re all pretty interesting characters, despite some not getting much screentime. Whether you love them or not, they’re my favorite thing about MLB.

So let's talk about season 4. A lot of people were critical of Marinette telling Alya her secret and then getting worried that she would replace Cat Noir, or that she didn't deserve to get the Fox Miraculous permanently. There's a lot to unpack here.

First, I think it's reasonable for Ladybug to have a confidante in her best friend. Alya knowing her identity helped her suceed in episodes like Optigami and Mr Pigeon 72. If it weren't for her, who knows what would have happened?

Also, Marinette trusting Alya even after she made a mistake is just like what Master Fu did: Ladybug forgot to purify the akuma her first time, and she accidentally compromised his identity. Yet even after that he let her keep her Miraculous and then entrusted her with the Miracle Box. Both of them acknowledge that everyone makes mistakes sometimes.

Which is what leads me to my point: the main problem is really just the fact that Shadow Moth is after them. Their identities have been compromised, yet Ladybug continues to loan miraculouses because she needs her allies. And it frustrates me that and Cat Noir continue to insist on secrecy because sooner or later, their identities will be compromised and they will be put at a disadvantage because of it. They need to be able to trust each other with their identities, romance aside so that they can work together to defeat Shadow Moth.

Because at the end of the day, no matter what happens, even if their identities are compromised, they need to be able to keep fighting the good fight. Marinette couldn't just go and give the Miraculouses to someone else other than Alya because there isn't really anyone else as close to her that she can trust as much. And when characters know their secret identities, the team just works much better.

Did someone else discover that the series might play around 2016?

▪️Master Fu is the guardian of the Miraculous for 172 years.

▪️In "Feast", the reporter in the helicopter above the Tibetan temple mentioned the year of 1844. I couldn't make out what else she said, but I guess it could be the year the temple disappeared?!

What do you think about my theory?

EDIT: In the episode where Marinette and Adrien got their miraculous, Fu told his kwami, that he's 168? There's so much weird details mentioned which don't fit together 🤔

add another ranger if a bit unbalanced

Takes place in new york

bonus round, replace him with Tommy

I'm wondering to see what people say

I can't really explain well but I always noticed there are a lot more fans of Adrien and Cat Noir over Marinette and Ladybug, many of whom are very protective of Cat Noir.

Meanwhile I can't help but notice that Astruc and the producers seem to prefer Marinette/ Ladybug over Adrien/Cat Noir. I know that Astruc wanted a ladybug themed hero but I wonder how he feels that most of the fandom in my opinion prefers Cat Noir over Ladybug.

I like them both personally and think that there should be more focus on Adrien's side of the story but even I have to admit lately it feels as if Marinette is carrying most of the show.

are the Adventures still going or is it cancelled? I just get the first book and was wondering if they are going to make more