Id, Ego And Super Ego Puns

I understand them individually, but not how they interact and function with respect to one another. I've seen the iceberg explanation but I don't get it!

Id says, "I'll have a water." Ego says, "I'll have what what he's having, but make mine a double." Super Ego adds on "and a round for the house!"

Ego says, "Nevermind, I'll have a whiskey."

On the one hand we might have a repressed desire - let’s say to sleep with our mother - which causes us anxiety. On the other hand, we might have a hyper vigilant superego that accusingly imputes that desire to us whenever we’re with our mother.

How can we tell if the desire is truly ours, or merely a symptom of a superego enjoying the shame it causes the ego by imputing a forbidden desire to the id?

How can we know if we are guilty of the desire, or guilty of internalising the desire as our own, rather than recognising it as an effect of the superego?

Are we deluded in confessing (like a torture victim) to the desire imputed us by the superego, or deluded for repressing the desire?

Is desire always a matter of walking and chewing gum at the same time in that respect? As in, assuming we cant definitively say that it’s one thing or the other, do we have to accept it may be both?

Does recognising/enjoying our symptom mean learning to enjoy that very state of contrariety each time it emerges? As in, we don’t change the symptom, just our position in relation to it?

Etc...

sorry extreeeeemely long

(posted a previous version of this before, but was deleted and needed a new place to spread out my ideas)

TLDR: characters and fans hating the show are extremely similar and capture the same human trait of difficulty or inability to handle deep psychological twists/challenges when it is necessary and what it means to their own identity and how they see themselves

GRRM had a plan

One of the things that most amazed me in the books and in the show is how well both capture human flaws and what people do to justify themselves and their own actions to fit their own narratives.

I don’t think I’ve seen a tv show that had been able to consistently capture the human psyche as GoT has. GRRM did it, but I’ve seen it before in books. But being able to capture it in tv/movies, all the way to the end (or almost end) is brilliant and even if at times maybe a bit quicker than some hoped, very well delivered.

Characters are non linear. They have ambitions and desires, but they bend their actions to force themselves to be who they want to be, just as they slowly develop their personal views of themselves to justify their past actions. Jaime, Cersei, Brienne, Sansa, Tyrion, Jon. (Etc. Etc.) These guys are presented as humans time and time again. The ability to show and maintain the evolving id, ego and super-ego of the characters is absolute brilliance from the all writers involved.

In fact: GRRM said it was one of his objectives for his books, as he looked at LOTR (a book he loved) and thought the characters were too linear.

Examples on The Characters Themselves

Jaime:

• (id) desires deeply Cersie, submits to this instinct, is a kingslayer,

• (ego) sees himself as flawed and justifies his actions and sees himself as direct

• (super-ego) dreams to be a knight who has honor, be in the whitebook. Hates when people point out he is not the image of what he wants

• Jaime dies understanding the gap between who he was, and who he wanted to be, and went to kings landing as a choice of accepting his instincts vs fighting to be a better man he dreams of. (He tried the super-ego/desired to be part with Brienne but realized that wasn’t him when Sansa mentioned his sister going to die. Jaime gave up his super-ego for his Id. That's what he told Brienne. “ I am flawed”)

Dany:

• is power hungry, instinct to burn for power,

• sees herself as a freer of slaves and just. Justifies actions as ends to her means of peace

• wants to be

Hey, basically the question in my title says it all, but I remember watching Zizek talk about an old movie where the floors of the house represents different aspects of the mind, and I'd like to find the clip or just the name of the movie and I can find the clip myself. Thanks in advance!

Sigmund Freud’s psychoanalytic theory was introduced in the name of Id, Ego & Super Ego. These are the three parts of Human Personality.  According to Sigmund Freud, Personality is a complex creation. To make it understand, he gave the “Psychoanalytic Theory“, which claims that there are 3 Parts of Personality: ID, EGO & SUPEREGO. They have a different-different contribution to the creation of personality.
From this, every part comes in handy in different situations. So now let’s see 3 Parts of Personality:-

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So my wife made a great point about the girls after we finished our first playthrough. She suggested that Caroline represents the id (impulsive and direct) while Justine represents the super-ego (concerned with duty and responsibility). Her conclusion from this assesment was that Lavenza makes a natural ego, balancing the protagonist's emotions with his duty to society, freeing him from the chains of either.

Thoughts?

Xe-Fi Te-Xi: ESFP ENFP

Fi-Xe Xi-Te: ISFP INFP

Throughout my conducted interviews(or jibber jabber chats) and random socializing regarding personality type and behavioural patterns:

Lots of FP seems to have low self-assurance problems (which 90% of them are in very strong denial regarding low self assurance, which seems like a smh moment for me..)

This is commonly observed by me from FP friends/acquaintances in 20-30s and it manifests and can be observed by a ego Fi’s dependency on Se and external social validation.

Does this happen to any of the Fi ego friend/acquaintances of yours?

I am suposed to define these three terms. I know what the are, but I would preffer to use Freud`s own words.

Could anyone provides quotes from Freud`s books where he clearly defines them?

We can all agree that FLCL in general has a lot of overtly sexual references and feelings. It makes sense that Freudian logic would have a home in the series.

The ending credits seem to show that when Haruko got Atomsk's power it split her into two people; Raharu and Jinyu. Id, and Super-Ego.

The Haruko that we see is 'Raharu,' I'm guessing it's the part of Haruko's personality that is all about anarchy and 'giving it to the man.' She's the 'Id.' Impulsive, sexual, human's basic and instinctual drives. I mean, really, what words describe Haruko better than that? She's always been off the wall and raunchy.

Jinyu seems to be the part of Haruko's personality that developed throughout FLCL and cared about Naota, a more righteous and lawful good kinda side. Jinyu is the 'Super-Ego.' It aims for perfection, it tries to act in a socially appropriate manner. It controls our sense of right and wrong. It's a direct opposition to the Id.

So, who is 'Ego'? Well, at this point it might be Hidomi AND Ide. Ide shows signs of being the Ego in the very first scene with him and his buddies, bragging about his "relation" with Raharu (The Teacher.) Ego has some defense mechanisms that he shows: Fantasy, projection, [rationalization,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalization_(psychology)) reaction formation.

Hidomi shows signs of being the Ego also: intellectualisation, dissociation. I'm almost positive she will show signs of [Identification](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_(psychology)) and Idealization. (As did Naota, btw..)

Interestingly and possibly non-intentional, Ide shows more of the 'Ego' as defined by Sigmund Freud himself, while Hidomi shows more of the 'Ego' as defined by his daughter, Anna Freud. A male and female take on what the Ego is, maybe?

Sigmund Freud said something that I feel will sum up what Progressive is going to be all about: "Thus the ego[Hidomi/Ide], driven by the id[Raharu], confined by the super-ego[Jinyu], repulsed by reality, struggles in bringing about harmony among the forces and influences working in and upon it," and readily "breaks out in anxiety—realistic anxiety regarding the external world, moral anxiety regarding the super-ego, and neurotic anxiety regarding the strength of the passi

Every where I wander people want to define my definition

I am what I am what I am what I am what I was...

Laugh, because you do not know the correct correction

I am what I am what I am what I am what I will be...

no where can I see a reflection that reflects me

I am what I am what I am what I am what is Me...

I know my definition I am what I am what I am what I am who are you?

I know there's the concept of the nafs - which is your base nature that often tells you the wrong things. But I feel there's also a 'good' equivalent of the nafs, something like conscience (or Zameer in Urdu). And 'emotions' appear to fall into some category in between the nafs and the mind. It also roughly correlates to the structure of our brain - the primitive limbic system and the advanced neocortex, and various structures in between.

This is important in taking decisions as we often need to know whom to listen to - our planning mind, with its principles and rules or our base natures - the inner voices, which can sometimes be good as well as bad. I'm sure there must have been many Islamic scholars who must have addressed this topic.

I sort of just realized that this Freudian theory sums up why Trump won the election, and why republicans win elections in general. The republicans appeal to the id, which makes up our basic primal instincts of aggression and xenophobia, which humans have always used to keep themselves safe from immediate danger. The democrats attempt to rouse the super ego of the voters, which is the moralizing part of our psyches that give pushback to our ids. However, our super egos are simply less potent than our ids, and are essentially only used to dilute the extreme decision making proposed by our ids. It is ultimately our egos that balance these three competing forces, and it seems to be the most powerful in people who are successful decision makers. The ego is our capacity for realism and critical thought that protects our self interest in the long run, rather than the immediate present, like the id. If democrats were not corrupt corporatists, and they ran Bernie Sanders style progressive politicians that are realists about our corrupt system, I think they could appeal to the ego of the American people, which instinctually would take precedent over our the draw of the id. I think the majority of people do know what's good for them, when it comes to making decisions that propagate their own personal success. We need common sense, realist liberal politicians that are actually willing to fight the dangerous reactionaries on the right. Otherwise I think humanity will fall victim to the effects of an unchecked id, which will be the end of us

Freud talked about id, ego, and superego. The id makes people behave accordingly to their desires. But from what I've understood, just the most basic and primitive needs. The superego "judges" the actions according to the moral of a person. But this is developed during early childhood as a result of society.

Some people feel a desire of searching for meaning in life. Since the desire of searching for meaning might be caused by our childhoods, would this desire be part of our id or superego?

Thanks for the help! I'm rather new to psychology.

I'm very curious about how social media can bring the best and the worst among people and how certain alter communities thrive online hiding behind the face of anonymity. The difference between public accounts, private accounts, and anonymous accounts and how our behaviors seem to differ in each social media platform.

Also if you guys have any better theories that can relate to my question aside from Freud's that would be great. Thank you!

Presenting (drum roll) an online reading circle for those motivated to explore psychoanalysis as a clinical practice and theoretical movement. Please feel welcome to join us for our first project, a read-through of Freud's "The Ego and the Id." The group is organized through discord, and all levels are encouraged to contribute and learn in a cooperative environment.
Link: https://discord.gg/Fd2mnNK

Official discussion of "The Ego and the Id" will take place over voice chat on 25 April (20:00 CET).

Federal immigration officials first undermined their shaky rationale for ending New Yorkers’ access to programs that speed pre-screened travelers through customs-check lines when a leaked internal memo revealed that they were seeking to punish “sanctuary states” for protecting undocumented immigrants.

By rejecting a compromise offer from Gov. Cuomo, they just shot their pretext in the second foot.

Leaders of President Trump’s Department of Homeland Security have been claiming that they had no choice but to end Global Entry and other Trusted Traveler Programs (TTP) because New York blocked federal access to DMV data under a new state law granting undocumented immigrants driver’s licenses. The feds claim that data is essential for investigating TTP applicants’ trustworthiness, despite the fact that they already get applicants’ complete criminal records through other channels.

Cuomo said Washington was welcome to access any TTP applicant’s DMV data on a case-by-case basis — giving Washington everything it claimed it needed.

Acting U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Matthew Albence wouldn’t take yes for an answer. He is insisting on full access to all New York’s DMV data, undergirding suspicions that ICE and DHS simply want DMV documents so they can locate, arrest and deport undocumented residents, supercharging a power they already have and undermining important protections in place in the Empire State.

That gave the game away. So why is Cuomo bending even further, with an offer to hand over the state’s entire DMV database, with Social Security numbers redacted, to federal immigration authorities? He half-backtracked in a statement late Friday.

That idea, which the Legislature likely wouldn’t even approve, would give ICE the photographs and addresses of thousands who, when the Green Light Law took effect, lined up to get standard licenses marked “not for federal purposes” — a veritable goldmine for intrusive and indiscriminate enforcement.

No good.

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Okay, so I am not going to go into some crazy detailed story about my 'TF', 'Divine Masculine', 'negative polarity' whatever the fuck you want to call it because I've come to believe it's an UTTER CROCK OF SHIT!!! Now, with that said, if you truly believe in this sort of thing and it's really adds some beauty, hope, happiness etc etc to your life by all means disregard this shit and enjoy yourself! If you've spent hours/days/months/years pining over someone who probably doesn't really give a fuck about you, this is for you.

I was suuuuper into the whole twin flame thing after I had met this chick that really rung my bell. I thought she suckkked (super cute for sure) but not my type when it came down to personality, morals, all that jazz. We ended up hooking up for a little and I really did have my "shadow side" shown to me, started having crazy dreams, was on cloud 9, all the while I felt something was off. Home girl never wanted to commit, made myself crazy, basically played myself and it sucked but no big. Was getting gaslighted, and I knew it, just let it happen. In short, this shit was toxic. Well, I eventually had enough, kinda just got over the whole hot and cold thing and tried ending it. Home girl ends up icing me out, ends up dating a dude (still together from what I assume) and from what I've heard is just a incredibly toxic relationship.

I got into this twin flame shit like in, 2018 I believe. Started reading all about it, looking up Ascension symptoms, started looking up tarot readings, listening to Hicks, Tolle, Watts, Ram Dass, Mooji, alllll that stuff. Just went down the rabbit hole with this shit and ran with it. Got all into angel numbers read The Law of One a bunch, the whole nine yards! Again, if you're into this, no hate. If it works it works. But for me, it fucked my shit up eventually.

Yeah, I came out the other side different. I learned what unconditional love was. I learned how to live consciously and be far more considerate of life around me. I learned to appreciate the ups and downs of life and find my peace quite a bit. I am so thankful for that, but before that happened, when I thought I was a "twin flame" my ego was on full blast. I thought I knew shit. I thought I knew wtf this all is and that I was on some Divine mission, that I was special because I was a "twin". I fell into ego traps constantly and was not in the best frame of mind.

I'm not saying that twin flames aren't real. I don't know. There sure as shit isn't

How do you think that Freudian concepts of Id, Ego, and Superego correlate with Jungian cognitive functions?

What I have understood till now is that our introverted feelings (fi) is the Id.

This article describes it very well: https://www.stellarmaze.com/fi-in-infjs/?relatedposts_hit=1&relatedposts_origin=1154&relatedposts_position=0

Our dominant function (Ni) is our ego. Which function can be then correlated with superego?

Episode 6 had some explicit references to the Freudian theory of Ego and Id. There is a third part to that theory, the Super Ego.

• ID - (Jemma's crazy self) The part of the psyche that is one's basic, instinctual drives. Needs, wants, desires, and impulses without filter or consideration of reality.
• EGO - (The Doctor) The part of the psyche that serves the ID within the framework of reality. Basically, "I want this; this is how I can get it without any consideration outside of myself." Completely self-serving.
• SUPER EGO - Conscience. Awareness of society and community outside of the self. Internalizations of common standards and expectations instilled by parents and mentors throughout development. (Super Ego coming from the latin roots meaning 'Beyond the self')

SO -

Sarge is ruthless, single minded in his pursuit of a goal, without consideration to other consequences, views his team as assets.

There were MANY times over the previous seasons when Coulson exhibited similar traits; BUT he always had humanity and a conscience either mitigating his choices or instilling him with some regret.

Sarge is basically Coulson without the super ego.

To be clear, I am not suggesting that he is a framework creation, but in a world where anything is possible it would be interesting if part of one's psyche could be ripped out.

Not sure if it will ever come into play or if it's just a side effect that removing the Super Ego is a great way to write a bad guy, but it would make the quick psychology lesson from episode 6 even better if it was foundation for exploring the psyches of other major characters.

The Id, The Ego, and The Super Ego walk into a bar. No they didn't! Yes, they did! None of this even matters!