Hello guys , i have some questions about HAL .
So i have literally 0 knowledge about workings of HAL and after 5mins of browsing about it on the internet , i have some questions to ask if its the right place to do so.
Why is it so cash strapped ? I looked at a article from 2019 and found that they didn't have enough reserves to pay their employees because they didn't get their dues paid by by their customers namely IAF and Army and also why the govt. takes prides in buying foreign fighter aircrafts and not diverting some of that budget to developing indigenous aircraft ? Why is the govt. thwarting HAL developments ?
Most of the Aircrafts and helis produced by them can't compete with other sophisticated Aircrafts and even if they are comparable , it takes ages for their R&D to get completed , case in point -Tejas its been more than 40 years since it was first proposed .
Shouldn't the govt. put more resource in all the R&D organisation and PSUs ? I went to some threads about HAL's financial struggles and people were like "its govt. stuff so its gonna be inferior and slow" . The faq bro shouldn't you be asking why is it inferior instead of of just saying lol govt. stuff is bad and let go of the PSUs.
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited
With India trying to improve its domestic manufacturing we were able to secure the business of Junkers, VFW, and Messerschmidt. These 3 companies also set up assembly lines used to build some of their late WWII planes, and while we have produced a small quantity of these planes, the everchanging technology and relations has led the use of the vast majority of these planes to be useless. However while the transport plane and some reconnaissance planes will still have a use, the rest of the orders will be cancelled as they just do not have a military application anymore. These factories will still be used to produce civilian planes, but we do not need the military planes except for the transportation planes.
Given this, and the recent agreement with the USSR we would like to re-task most of the Junkers, VFW, Messerschmidt facilities in order to build the airframes and other parts that we have been granted for us to build. Given our majority ownership in these joint ventures, we believe that this is the most profitable avenue for this relationship.
Therefore, a re-organization is necessary in order to meet the demands of the new age. We will continue to maintain the VFW-HAL partnership, with the assembly plants continuing to produce the Fw Condor. We understand that VFW have been working on developing domestic jet engines, which we would also like to begin experimenting with in India. VFW-HAL will be responsible for jet engine development as well as piston engine based plane construction.
BrahRhein Aerospace Limited will be the successor of the Junkers, Messerschmidt, and HAL joint venture. The merging of these joint ventures, the focus will be to have the licensed production and maintenance of the planes in our service. BrahRhein will be constructing the airframes as well as other parts that we have been granted, utilizing the experience we have in this facility as well as the pre-existing assembly lines that will now be converted. None of these blueprints will be exported back to Germany, while we do recognize that Germany is neutral, we have been granted special access, and therefore we would appreciate discretion here.
Saab-HAL Aerospace Limited will continue to provide service for the J-29 we still have in service. There role has been relatively reduced thanks to the situation with the UK and the engine, but we still have 96 of these planes in service, and they do require maintenance, and therefore we will b
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When we announced the formation of Hindustan Aeronautics Limited just over 3 years ago, it was with the understanding that the majority of the main facilities were actually located in what is now Dravidia. However, HAL has been rebuilt by India with it mostly centered in Kanpur, Uttar Pradesh. This is mainly due to pre-existing facilities in the city, allowing for the expansion and growth of the aerospace industry there.
Factories have also been set up in Rourkela (Odisha) and Durgapur (West Bengal). We expect to see more facilities to come online with time, but for now these 3 are cities are the main production and development centers for HAL. 3 years ago, we received investments from the German companies of Messerschmitt, Junkers, and Focke-Wulf. They agreed to set up production lines to build some of their latest planes in India. Since then, a lot has changed, but the factories have completed their construction and are now able to produce some planes. Unfortunately, most of the planes are ones that would be dated for use in military application. However, India finds itself in need of more pilots, and the engineering experience from building these planes could be critical in the future of the aerospace industry for India.
From Messerschmitt we have the ability to produce the Messerschmitt Bf-109 and Messerschmitt Bf-110, from Junkers we have the ability to produce the Junkers Ju 87 and Junkers Ju 88, and from Focke-Wulf we have the ability to produce the Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor. In reality, the Bf-109 and Ju-87 have very limited usefulness for military application, and therefore will likely only be produced in an unarmed civilian variant to promote flying.
However, there is some military application for the Bf-110, Ju-88, and the Fw 200 Condor, and given our desire to build experience in the aerospace industry, we will begin the production of these planes. Currently we are also importing the engines from Germany, but we would like to eventually be able to at least build piston engines domestically.
HAL will produce the Bf 110 G-2/R4 (Ground Attack), Bf 110 G-3 (Long-range reconnaissance), Bf 110 G-4 (Night Fighter), and the Bf 110 B-3 (trainer). Given our current use of propellor planes in Ground Attack formations, we will be building 64 Bf 110 G-2/R4, 48 Bf 110 G-3, 48 Bf 110 G-4, and 28 Bf 110 B-3. However, the Bf 110 B-3 will also be sold to the civilian market given its ability to be a trainer aircraft.
The Ju88 will be primarily used
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Siyah Gri Beyaz -- Turkey Selects Hindustan Aeronautics Limited for Landmark Fighter Development Contract
[Jan/Feb 2020]
(ANKARA) Turkey's Presidency of Defense Industries has announced the winner to last year's tender for developmental assistance to the TF-X stealth fighter program.
The $250 million contract called for the relevant firm to provide developmental assistance to the program, especially in regards to the airframe, and build a common technological portfolio from the experience gained. The public tender has been seen as an alternative to joint development or technology transfer in that Turkey is asking the subcontractor it selects to help work on the airframe from scratch -- regardless of whether the winner has previous stealth experience -- and contribute engineering capacity to the program.
The Presidency of Defense Industries announced today that it has selected India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) as the winner of the $250 million offer.
Turkey is already working with the UK's BAE Systems and Rolls Royce, while also cooperating with Saab. Defense analysts in Turkey say the program is ready to enter the final developmental phase and that the specifications have been finalized.
Turkey working with India on its flagship indigenous stealth fighter project is a major development politically. Long allied with Pakistan, Turkey has avoided close cooperation with India in order to not upset its South Asian ally. Though the scope of joint efforts is limited and Turkish officials have noted that they are willing to brief Pakistan on the nature but not details of the work being done, there is the potential for a diplomatic crisis.
The Hindu
Massive Data Breach on TF-X
###January 2, 2028
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited provided key technical support worth $250M to the Turkish government concerning the development of the TF-X Stealth Fighter (TAI Kayra). However, an anonymous group has apparently hacked into HAL's database and managed to gain access to the entirety of the technical information on file about the aircraft. Shortly thereafter, the documents were published on many defence forums, such as Reddit's r/CredibleDefense and WikiLeaks, alongside Indian nationalist groups.
Prime Minister Modi's office, when asked for comment, stated that "It is unfortunate that our premier aerospace firm could be hacked in such a manner. Truly, a tragedy to Turkey who are utilizing these fighters. This must be rather embarrassing for HAL, to be sure."
Additionally, anonymous sources from within the Indian intelligence community conclude that it must be an inside job, as the joint Indo-Australian cybersecurity network that protects both nations is more than capable of handling any external threat, especially over such a high value target like HAL.
News of a somewhat leisurely search of HAL staff for the leaker has been released to the public, but as of yet the culprit has yet to be detained. Captain Singh of the New Delhi Police stated that "Whilst our A team is busy with fighting crime, certainly our B team, or if not that a solid C+ team in on the case!"
This is related to Pad Abort Test we have been hearing about and they are speaking of shroud with grid fins that encapsulates Crew module as illustrated here and here
> • The ‘Crew Module (CM) Fairing Assembly’ of the ‘Human Space Program (HSP)’ was delivered to Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre of ISRO on 10th March, 2017. The CM Fairing or Shroud Assembly houses the Crew Module and forms the bottom most structure of Crew Escape System.
No news or details on Crew Module itself.
http://www.hal-india.com/Financial%20Highlights/M__22
Annual Report 2016-17 [PDF]
Year is confusing but AR 2016-17 seems latest as on 20 November 2017 same page featured Annual Report 2015-16 which is now in archives.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171120013400/http://www.hal-india.com/Financial%20Highlights/M__22
Archiving as it appears today for future reference.
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited broke the ground on two plants in the recently established Special Economic Zone in Algiers. Following an agreement to fill an undisclosed "large order" of aircraft, HAL offered to build a plant to manufacture jets and a plant to manufacture helicopters within the Greater Maghreb Confederacy in the special economic zone set up especially for this purpose. The tanks are expected to be able to produce 100 jets per year (for the Plane plant) and 100 helicopters per year (for the helicopter plant). It will cost about $50 million a piece to set them up, the cost greatly lowered by their protection in the SEZ. The plants are expected to employ about 4000 Maghrebi citizens and construction should be finished in about 1 year.
