Preliminary Hearing - Day 16

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 16: September 1, 2021

Detective Clint Cole

  • Det. Clint Cole back on the stand this morning. He said wire taps happened involving the Flores Family from January 5th of 2020 and it lasted for 30 days (Alexa Bertola, KSBY)
  • He also said that law enforcement leaked info to Chris Lambert that they had Paul Flores' white Nissan pick up in their possession. Info was leaked for his podcast and it was during the time of the wire taps. (Alexa Bertola, KSBY)
  • Det. Cole testified about why investigators believe a crime was committed at Ruben's property on White Court in Arroyo Grande. He discussed some of the evidence that was collected during searches of the property, including anomalies in the backyard and a 4-foot deep hole under the deck containing fibers and human blood. (KSBY)
  • Det. Cole also said there was suspicious staining in the soil indicative of human remains. (Alexa Bertola, KSBY)
  • Det. Cole says he has a digital tape recording of Ruben asking why they needed the DNA of Susan and her bf when he said he was the only one that committed the felony. (Alexa Bertola, KSBY)
  • Cole also said witnesses had reported suspicious activity during odd hours at the property, which included Paul's mother, Susan Flores, and her boyfriend, Mike McConville. A trailer was also parked nearby the home, witnesses said. (KEYT)
  • The sheriff's office seized the trailer and Det. Cole said a search of it revealed "suspicious activity." (KSBY)
  • Later, the sheriff's office obtained a warrant for Ruben's DNA, and Det. Cole went to his White Court home to collect it on May 19, 2021. That's when Cole said Ruben asked why they would also be collecting DNA from Susan Flores and her boyfriend and Ruben told him, "They did not commit a felony, only I did." (KSBY)
  • Det. Cole said he has the admission on a digital tape recording. (KSBY)
  • Detective Cole faced aggressive cross-examination by Paul Flores' attorney Robert Sanger for the better part of Wednesday morning. (KEYT)
  • At issue is Cole's communications with Jennifer ****, who previously testified she heard Paul Flores admit to killing Smart. Defense attorney Robert Sanger has previously referred to "late
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Preliminary Hearing - Day 18

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 18: September 7, 2021

Philip Hanes (archaeologist)

  • The preliminary hearing for Paul and Ruben Flores in the #KristinSmart case continues this morning with archeologist Philip Hanes taking the stand. Hanes used ground penetrating radar to survey areas around Ruben Flores’ Arroyo Grande specifically under the porch March 15 & 16. (Lauren Walike, KCBX)
  • Hanes, who works for Natural Investigations, Inc., was contracted by the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff’s Office, to examine the soil on the property for any signs of disturbed earth. He testified that it was his job to identify any “voids” in the soil that would indicate that something was buried there. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Witnesses including handlers of dogs trained to detect the presence of human remains previously testified that two dogs had significant changes in behavior when they sniffed around a single patch of dirt underneath Ruben Flores’ deck. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Hanes testified that he used his ground-penetrating radar to find an anomaly in the same location that indicated the soil had been disturbed, though he could not pinpoint the precise age of the disturbance. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • He said that anomalies in the soil indicated that the patch of disturbed soil was consistent with a potential burial site. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • He says the anomaly was significant soil disturbance from the top of the surface to approx. 4 feet deep. (Alexa Bertola, KSBY)
  • Hanes said he found an approximate 4x6 ft anomaly under Ruben’s porch and said that it was “big enough for a potential burial.” (Lauren Walike, KCBX)
  • Hanes described the size as being consistent with a burial, telling the court it was the most promising anomaly of interest. (KSBY)
  • The prosecution is taking witnesses out of order and cross examination of Shelby Liddell, a SLO Sheriff’s forensic specialist, is expected to continue later today. (Lauren Walike, KCBX)
  • Hanes specializes in remote sensing, or the technology used for gaining understanding of what is below ground to guide excavations. He said at the AG house they were dealing with drier sand and placed 11 grids to use
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Preliminary Hearing - Day 17

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 17: September 2, 2021

Kristine Black (dog handler)

  • Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office Canine Specialized Search Team handler Kristine Black took the stand. She's the assistant director for the search and rescue team. She talked about her search of 710 White Court on March 15, 2021. (Alexa Bertola, KSBY)
  • After going through her qualifications, certifications and expertise, she spoke about her search on the property with her dog, Annie, a Belgian Malinois that specializes only in human remains detection. (KEYT)
  • Black said she intentionally stood out of sight from the house at the end of White Court in order to not influence her search. (Dave Minsky, Santa Maria Times)
  • She said she brought her Belgian Malinois, Annie, with her and first searched a maroon 1985 Volkswagon that was later seized from Ruben’s home as part of the investigation. (KSBY)
  • Black says Annie, who is only trained in detecting human remains, went inside the vehicle but did not have a final response. They headed into Ruben’s backyard next. (KSBY)
  • She said there was an area under the deck (left side) behind the lattice that her dog, Annie started to show changes of behavior that is consistent with odor but she did not go to a final response. Searched the Volkswagen but did not alert. Annie is trained in human remains. (Alexa Bertola, KSBY)
  • Black described the first part of her search, which was on a 1985 Volkswagen parked on the property. Black said her dog did not give a “final response,” also known as an “alert,” which meant the dog did not detect human remains. (KEYT)
  • After that, Black and Annie searched part of the property, but again, the dog did not give a final response, meaning no human remains were detected. (KEYT)
  • The two then went under the deck area, entering through a gate. Black said Annie had “behavior changes” to the left side of the gate area under the deck, and worked the area sniffing vigorously, but did not give a final response. (KEYT)
  • She testified that Annie started to show changes in behavior in an area under the left side of the deck behind some lattice and while the behavior change was consistent with odor, Black says Annie did
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Preliminary Hearing - Day 15

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 15: August 31, 2021

Wayne Behrens (dog handler)

  • This morning in the #KristinSmart case prelim, the court heard from Wayne Behrens, the first of three cadaver dog handlers to search Paul Flores’ dorm room June 29, 1996. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Questioning started with dog handler Wayne Behrens who’s dog Sierra searched the Santa Lucia Dorm on June 29, 1996. Behrens started his dog handling over 30 years ago. (Ava Kershner, Mustang News)
  • Sierra was certified as a type 1, 2, 3 cadaver dog meaning she could detect a small source, large scent above ground, and underwater. Behren said in his training logs at the time he would detail if there were any false positives, but non that he could recall. (Ava Kershner, Mustang News)
  • Behrens’ dog, a yellow Labrador named Sierra, was certified by CARDA in locating both remains and live humans, and had been successful in finding remains in at least four large-scale searches times during its lifetime, he testified. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Behrens recalled on the stand that he was assigned to search a rectangle-shaped outdoor area of the Cal Poly campus, with the residence halls at the northern boundary. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • On June 29, 1996, Behrens started out searching the area west of the dorms when Sierra started showing interest in the bushes and a window on Santa Lucia. After initial hesitation, Behrens request to search the dorms was approved. (Ava Kershner, Mustang News)
  • Wayne Behrens said his dog’s search began outdoors on campus but that the animal independently led him to Santa Lucia Hall — right outside the window of Paul Flores’ room, although Behrens didn’t know that at the time. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Once they entered the dorms, Behrens was “surprised by the strong response” that Sierra showed on the door to room 128. After more delay, Behrens request to enter the room was approved. Sierra alerted to a “definitive source” on the left side of the bed. (Ava Kershner, Mustang News)
  • Behrens said he let Sierra loose inside the dorm and she ran up to the room, jumping onto the door with both paws. Investigators let her inside the room, where she alerted to
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Preliminary Hearing - Day 19

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 19: September 8, 2021

Motion

  • This morning the court heard arguments over the defense's subpoena for testimony and records of Chris Lambert, podcaster whose #YourOwnBackyard investigated the case. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Judge van Rooyen granted the motion to quash to Chris Lambert, meaning he does not have to testify. (Ava Kershner, Mustang News)
  • Judge Craig van Rooyen granted Chris Lambert’s motion to quash his subpoena meaning the creator of #YourOwnBackyard podcast will not testify. (Lauren Walike, KCBX)
  • The motion to quash the subpoena for witness Chris Lambert was granted by the judge who said it came down to the shield law and first amendment rights. (Alexa Bertola, KSBY)
  • Lambert's lawyer cited the shield law and the 1st amendment in their motion to quash. Sanger challenged that Lambert influenced witness testimony, particularly Jeniffer and Margarita. Sanger kept repeating that a witness said “He wanted things to come out his way”. (Ava Kershner, Mustang News)
  • The defense had argued that Lambert attempted to influence the testimony of witnesses, namely Jennifer, who testified that Lambert told her not to tell investigators of their conversations. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Defense attorney Robert Sanger said that the defense has no way to know what Lambert told witnesses in the case without putting him on the stand and having access to his notes and recordings. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Defense attorney Robert Sanger, representing Paul Flores, argued Lambert influenced witness testimony including Jennifer. “Lambert is not just reporting the facts, not just gathering information, but influencing testimony of a key witness,” Sanger said. (Lauren Walike, KCBX)
  • "(Lambert) has the cloak of a journalist sometimes... but when he crosses over to someone trying to influence proceedings in this court... I think the answer is there's no good reason to quash the subpoena," Sanger argued before Judge Craig van Rooyen. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • “If he did that with one witness he probably did that with other witnesses,” Sanger said. (side note- the Smart family were repeatedly shaking their heads during this time
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Preliminary Hearing - Day 21

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 21: September 20, 2021

Jennifer **** (former acquaintance of Paul Flores)

  • Cross examination resumed for the people’s witness, Jennifer ****. She previously testified she heard Paul admit to burying Kristin Smart underneath his skate ramp Huasna. (Alexa Bertola, KSBY)
  • Jennifer first took the stand on August 12. At that time, she told the court that in 1996, she heard Paul Flores use a derogatory term to refer to Kristin Smart and said, "I'm done playing with her and I put her out underneath my ramp in Huasna." She said she didn't tell law enforcement about it until she talked to San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Detective Clint Cole in 2019. (KSBY)
  • Jennifer **** said on the stand that murder defendant Paul Flores told her in 1996 that he had “taken care of” Smart, then laughed about it. (SLO Tribune)
  • Jennifer, who was 17 years old at the time, said she didn’t tell anyone about Flores’ comments for the next six years because she feared for her life. (SLO Tribune)
  • “I was afraid I’d end up missing or buried someplace,” she testified. (SLO Tribune)
  • “He had a smirk when he said it, like it was a joke,” Jennifer said Monday. “Anyone would have been terrified if they heard it.” (SLO Tribune)
  • In cross-examination, defense attorneys for Paul and Ruben Flores asked questions about Jennifer's past drug use. She acknowledged using methamphetamine off and on, but said she wasn’t doing so at the time she’d met Flores and heard his statement, nor has her memory been affected, she said. (SLO Tribune)
  • When questioned why she could remember a convo from 23 [25] years ago but not from 18 months ago, she said, “I would assume nobody in this courtroom would forget a conversation like that.” (Alexa Bertola, KSBY)
  • Mesick asks if Jennifer ever associated with The Vagos, “an outlaw motorcycle gang”. She says “For a minute, yes.” Mesick asks if her fiancé was a “patch-wearer”. Prosecutor Peuvrelle objects to the relevance, and the Judge sustains. (Chris Lambert, YOB)
  • Mesick asks Jennifer if ‘the podcast’ spurred her memory. Jennifer says, “Under no circumstances were my memories created.” Mesick asks if it’s correct that she hea
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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂

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Geddit? No? Only me?
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Buenosdillas

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I wanna hear your best airplane puns.

Pilot on me!!

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E or ß?
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Covid problems
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These aren't dad jokes...

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

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What did 0 say to 8 ?

What did 0 say to 8 ?

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" Hey, you two stop making out "

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I won't be doing that today!

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How do you stop Canadian bacon from curling in your frying pan?

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I did it, I finally did it. After 4 years and 92 days I went from being a father, to a dad.

This morning, my 4 year old daughter.

Daughter: I'm hungry

Me: nerves building, smile widening

Me: Hi hungry, I'm dad.

She had no idea what was going on but I finally did it.

Thank you all for listening.

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It this sub dead?

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My name is ABCDEFGHIJKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

It’s pronounced “Noel.”

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All dad jokes are bad and here’s why

Why

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If Korean pop is shortened to Kpop and Korean Drama is Kdrama...

What, then, is Chinese rap?

Edit:

Notable mentions from the comments:

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Is this sub still active?

There hasn't been a single post this year!

(Happy 2022 from New Zealand)

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is Isn't
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I named my dog "5 miles."

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Edit: My most popular post on Reddit! 😀 Thank you for the awards.

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Possibly the greatest Snap Reaction dad joke I've ever told (it even got me a POWERFUL groan and vehement FU from my wife)

Me grabbing a soda from my (what I thought was) half full 12pk...

Notices there's only 2;

Me: "Awe man... This is a damn bird box!" Her: "What the hell does that mean?!" Me: (Pulls both cans out & shows them to her) "It's only got Toucans."

I'm not ashamed to admit the look on her face was glorious.

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Preliminary Hearing - Day 14

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 14: August 30, 2021

  • The preliminary hearing for Paul and Ruben Flores will now extend into at least next week. (KSBY)
  • Following closed-door sessions Monday morning, it was announced the objection to podcaster Chris Lambert’s subpoena requiring him to provide documents related to the case won’t be heard until Tuesday, Sept. 7. (KSBY)
  • In the hour we were in session, we learned that a reason for the late start was new discovery given to the defense this morning regarding our first witness, Gail Laroque, who was one of four handlers of human remains detection dogs that alerted on Paul Flores' dorm room in 1996 (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Van Rooyen did not elaborate on what that new discovery was. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • We also learned that the hearing, initially expected to wrap up this Friday, will now go into next week with both parties expected to argue over a subpoena for Chris Lambert of #YourOwnBackyard on Sept. 7. Lambert opposes the release of his records as part of the subpoena (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • The defense says it also has called on Scott Peterson to be made available for Zoom testimony from prison through Sept. 7. Judge van Rooyen said that the defense will have to make an offer of proof that Peterson's testimony will be relevant before he'll be allowed to testify (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Defense attorney Robert Sanger did not say that a subpoena has been issued for Peterson, but told van Rooyen that Peterson was “ordered” to be made available for testimony via Zoom conference from San Quentin State Prison. Peterson is on call through Sept. 7, Sanger said. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Van Rooyen told Sanger that the defense must provide an offer of proof to the court that Peterson’s testimony is relevant to the preliminary hearing before the judge can determine whether Peterson’s testimony will be allowed. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • The judge also urged Sanger to file a reply to Lambert’s opposition to his subpoena, to be heard before van Rooyen makes a ruling. Lambert in court Monday agreed to remain on-call to testify through Sept. 7, when the parties are scheduled to debate the issue. *(Matt F
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Preliminary Hearing - Day 12

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 12: August 23, 2021

Retired Detective Henry Stewart

  • Retired Detective Henry Stewart from the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff’s Department is on the witness stand this morning (Alexa Bertola, KSBY)
  • Detective Henry Stewart on the stand. He said he found a strand of brown hair under an edge of the mattress in Paul Flores’ dorm room in June 1996. (Lauren Walike, KCBX)
  • Stewart says on June 26, 1996, they went to Paul Flores’s former dorm room. (KSBY)
  • The room was empty with only beds inside, according to Stewart, who testified that he found a strand of brown hair under the edge of a mattress in the room. He says it was booked into evidence the same day. It was not revealed in court whether it was ever determined to whom the hair belonged. (KSBY)
  • Stewart’s testimony included his recollection of a single strand of brown hair discovered in the Santa Lucia Hall dorm room formerly occupied by Paul Flores during a search in June 1996.
  • He also testified about his recollection of the reported theft of a stolen golf cart on campus the night Smart went missing and a cadaver dog search of the vehicle when it was later located nearby on Santa Ynez Avenue in San Luis Obispo. (Dave Minsky, Santa Maria Times)
  • Stewart also discussed interviews with witnesses in the case including Ted **** and Jana ****. He also briefly talked about a search warrant executed at Ruben Flores’ White Court home in Arroyo Grande. (Lauren Walike, KCBX)
  • Stewart testified about an interview he conducted in July of 1996 with Jana ****, a friend of Kristin's roommate, Crystal. (KSBY)
  • Jana reportedly stayed in Crystal and Kristin's room the night of May 24-25 when Kristin disappeared. Stewart testified that Jana told him she was alone in the room until an acquaintance named "Ted" showed up and stayed with her until about 9 a.m. or 10 a.m. (KSBY)
  • Stewart testified that he and another Sheriff’s Office detective were assigned to the Smart case on June 26, 1996. They interviewed Jana ****, who was not a Cal Poly student but was allowed by Smart’s roommate to sleep in Smart’s room in Muir Hall on the night Smart went missing. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
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Preliminary Hearing - Day 8

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 8: August 12, 2021

Tim **** (partygoer)

  • Tim **** testified that he was a junior at Cal Poly the night of the party on Crandall Way in May of 1996 and was celebrating the birthdays of two friends who were turning 21. (KSBY)
  • He said he remembers seeing Paul Flores show up to the party by himself around 9:30 or 10 p.m. but said he didn’t think anything of Paul at the time. (KSBY)
  • Tim helped walk Kristin Smart part of the way back to the Cal Poly dorms from the Crandall Way party. Tim said he has a very “vivid” memory of the night. (Lauren Walike, KCBX)
  • Tim **** resumes testimony & describes walking Kristin Smart with Cheryl **** when Paul Flores “all of a sudden” joins them. “I have a really good memory of this b/c I’ve rehashed this over 25 years” Tim said about seeing Kristin laying on grass next to the Crandall house. (Megan Healy, KSBY)
  • Tim **** testified this morning about the party at Crandall Way on May 24, 1996. He said there were two people “who stuck out like sore thumbs”: Kristin Smart and Paul Flores. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • He said Paul Flores was “very intent on being around (the girls at the party), being near them.” “He was, I would say, engaging as much as he could be,” Tim said of Paul Flores. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Tim recounts seeing Kristin and Paul talking in the hallway of the house and laughing and then falling together on the floor. He testified that around 11 p.m., Paul and Kristin fell to the floor about five feet in front of him, adding they both seemed intoxicated but that he doesn’t know how much they may have had to drink. (KSBY)
  • Tim recalled Flores and Smart falling to the floor about five feet in front of him at the party, before they got up again. He said they seemed intoxicated and almost embarrassed. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • “They both seemed intoxicated,” Tim said.
  • Deputy District Attorney Chris Peuvrelle asks Tim about the end of the party and when he next saw Kristin. Tim says he remembers some partygoers getting into his truck that his friend drove, but that he stayed behind to walk back to the dorms with Cheryl ****. (KSBY)
  • He remembers
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Preliminary Hearing - Day 11

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 11: August 20, 2021

Motion (CW for mentioning of sexual assault)

  • On the record at 10:33am, opened with the People’s motion to submit evidence of other sexual misconduct, pornography, and home videos from Paul Flores. (Ava Kershner, Mustang News)
  • The People presented a motion to admit evidence pertaining to Paul Flores’ prior incidents of alleged rape using a date rape drug, as well as rape pornography and home videos he was in possession of. (Cameron Oakes, Cal Poly Jour)
  • Peuvrelle cited 1101B on the basis of Corpus Delicti, or the facts proving a breach of law. He discussed Kristin Smart laying on the lawn for 2 hours according to witness testimonies and times they saw her. He cites Margarita Campos’s testimony about how she left Kristin sober (Ava Kershner, Mustang News)
  • According to Peuvrelle, witnesses said they saw Kristin Smart with a red Solo cup while attending the party on Crandall Way in San Luis Obispo. Between an hour and an hour-and-a-half later, she was “passed out in the dirt,” the prosecutor said, implying that Paul Flores drugged her. (SLO Tribune)
  • He also cited Tim's testimony on how Kristin was unable to walk on her own. Peuvrelle says within the estimated 60-90 min, she became incapacitated. He then cites witness statements from 5 women having experiences being drugged, their friends being drugged, or being raped by Flores. (Ava Kershner, Mustang News)
  • Peuvrelle discussed several instances in which Flores allegedly drugged and raped other women both before and after Smart's disappearance. Peuvrelle said there was the same MO in each of these cases, so that's why it's relevant. (KSBY)
  • He also brought up a rape fantasy porn video that was allegedly found in a search of Paul's home. He said it showed someone breaking into a house, putting a cloth over a victim, tying her up, and raping her. The prosecutor said the same thing happened with Smart, and it's relevant to prove the attempted rape and MO in this case. (KSBY)
  • Peuvrelle cited the rape fantasy pornography and the home videos found on Flores’ computer. He claims this evidence is relevant. Sanger said that they did not have evidence of an actual crime t
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Preliminary Hearing - Day 7

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 7: August 11, 2021

Motion

  • In the seventh day of the preliminary hearing for Paul and Ruben Flores, the morning started with Sanger saying he filed a motion to recuse the SLO DA’s Office from the Kristin Smart case citing the prosecution and lead detective wearing purple ties. (Lauren Walike, KCBX)
  • The defense claimed the prosecution, District Attorney’s Office representatives and some witnesses were wearing purple during the preliminary hearing “as a result of a Facebook request on the site Justice for Kristin Smart.” Posts on the Facebook page asked for people to wear purple — Smart’s favorite color — during a Memorial Day celebration, according to the motion. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • In the motion, Sanger said the decision to wear purple showed a “stunning lack of objectivity” and argued it was grounds to recuse the District Attorney’s Office from the case. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • Defense attorney says the prosecution has been 'biased' by wearing purple ties during the prelim in support of Kristin Smart (Megan Healy, KSBY)
  • In his motion, Sanger references several news reports containing images of what Peuvrelle has worn during the hearing. (KSBY)
  • He adds that the DA's investigator and Victim/Witness Coordinator for the DA's office have also been observed wearing purple throughout the hearing. (KSBY)
  • "This conduct not only has the appearance of impropriety but is in fact improper," Sanger says in his motion. "The wearing of purple attire, from the lead prosecutor to the DA's investigator to the witness coordinator is a blatant representation of a 'party' and a community movement to convict Paul Flores." (KSBY)
  • Sanger said in court that the California Attorney General’s Office, which would supposedly take over the case should San Luis Obispo County prosecutors be disqualified, was being served with legal papers in Los Angeles. (Matt Fountain, SLO Tribune)
  • A representative from the State Attorney General's Office will need to be in attendance. In agreeing to the hearing date, Peuvrelle also pointed out that he was wearing a blue suit and tie Wednesday and that the tie he was wearing on Tuesday was red and navy. *(K
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Preliminary Hearing - Day 6

Continued megathread of the Preliminary Hearing in the Kristin Smart case at San Luis Obispo Superior Court.

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DAY 6: August 10, 2021

Opening

  • Defense Attorney Robert Sanger indicates that District Attorney Investigator JT Camp has labeled Trinity Hall and Fremont Hall on Defense Exhibit 601 (an aerial layout of the Cal Poly campus). He also indicates that he intends to object to the admissibility of upcoming testimony by cadaver dog handlers. (YOB)
  • Tuesday's session began with Paul Flores' defense attorney Robert Sanger speaking about the use of cadaver dogs in testimony and announced he would bring in a dog handler witness on Aug. 30. (KEYT)
  • Judge Craig van Rooyen mentioned previous California Supreme Court rulings that included dog scent evidence. (KEYT)

Detective Clint Cole

  • Sanger asks the relevance of the purple tie that Cole is wearing. The Judge responds, “I’m actually wearing a purple tie too. I didn’t know there was any significance." Sanger asks Cole if the purple tie is intended to show solidarity with the Smart family. Cole says, “It’s more for Kristin Smart.” (YOB)
  • Van Rooyen allows questioning to continue and Cole says the purple tie is more to show solidarity for Kristin Smart. He admitted that he saw a Facebook post that mentioned purple was Kristin’s favorite color. However, Cole says he does not recall having a conversation with Peuvrelle or the Smart family about this. (KSBY)
  • Sanger asks what it has to do with Kristin Smart. Cole says he believes it was her favorite color. Sanger says that Prosecutor Christopher Peuvrelle has also been wearing a purple tie every day, and he asks Cole if there was a discussion about this before proceedings started. [ed. note: Prosecutor Peuvrelle is wearing a black tie with red stripes today.] (YOB)
  • Cole says he doesn’t believe there was any discussion about their tie colors. Sanger asks if Cole had meetings with the family about his tie color. He says he did not. Sanger asks if Cole came up with the idea on his own. Cole says he did, after learning from social media posts that purple was Kristin Smart’s favorite color. Sanger asks if it was from a social media post from Chris Lambert. The Judge sustains Peuvrelle’s relevance objection. Sanger asks what social media post he learned thi
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