AHC: less divergent Gallo Romance languages

How to make them less divergent?

Germanic and Celtic influence is the reason why they are like this. No Franks - no Germanic influenc. How do we get rid of Celtic influence?

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Three Lombard, Piedmontese and Venetian speakers have a chat (Gallo-Italic languages) youtu.be/O9rjrbmWK-A
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Could British Romance language(s) have been classified as Gallo-Romance, or was it sufficiently unique enough to be its own branch of Romance?

Based on the materials we have, what do you guys think? Or what would you even infer if we don’t have enough material to make an educated guess?

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Proveu d'entendre aquests tres, a veure què! Three Lombard, Piedmontese and Venetian speakers have a chat (Gallo-Italic languages) youtu.be/O9rjrbmWK-A
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Low quality map of the dialects of Gallo-Romance languages (written in local languages)
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gallo roman gaul language map fav.me/de4y45u
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/u/Giallo555 responds to: Three Lombard, Piedmontese and Venetian speakers have a chat (Gallo-Italic languages) reddit.com/r/languagelear…
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Low quality map of the dialects of Gallo-Romance languages (written in local languages)
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Have you ever heard Piacentino, a variety of the Emilian-Romagnol language, a Gallo-Italic language spoken in the north of Italy? youtube.com/watch?v=c51An…
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/r/learngallo - A new sub for anyone interested in discovering the beautiful endangered romance language known as Gallo! reddit.com/r/learngallo/
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Have you ever heard Piacentino, a variety of the Emilian-Romagnol language, a Gallo-Italic language spoken in the north of Italy? youtube.com/watch?v=c51An…
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Location of the old Gallo language in northern France, between Normandy and Brittainy [1029 x 725] upload.wikimedia.org/wiki…
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Does anyone have literally ANY resources on ANY northern Italian / gallo-romance regional language / dialect

I really find the Italian regional languages, especially the ones from the north of Italy, to be really fascinating. Unfortunately I do not live in Italy and the languages are dying out pretty fast. I've tried digging a bit and found some stuff on Emilio-Romagnan and the the Ticino canton's Swiss Lombard lexicon, but outside of that I haven't come up with much in terms of resources. At this point I know the only real way to learn one of these languages is to actually live in an area where they speak it (because gallo-romance languages in Italy are non-standardized and vary to a ridiculous degree over a short distance) but I'd still like to find some sort of dictionary or phonetics source or grammatical source for literally any gallo-romance language and literally any dialect within a gallo-romance language just because they're so interesting. Italian resources are an option (and most resources I've found are in Italian). I'm sort of learning Italian so I'm beginning to be able to bullshit my way through what I need to.

If someone stumbles upon this this is what I've got so far:

https://www.ponseggi.it/lamirumagna/homepage.htm

https://ia601407.us.archive.org/27/items/vocabolarioromag00ercouoft/vocabolarioromag00ercouoft.pdf

http://www.bulgnais.com/OrtRom.pdf

https://archive.org/download/vocabolarioromag00morruoft/vocabolarioromag00morruoft.pdf

http://www.homolaicus.com/linguaggi/fonti/dialetto-romagnolo.pdf

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_emiliano-romagnola

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_romagnola

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_emiliana

http://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/dialetti-emiliano-romagnoli_%28Enciclopedia-dell%27Italiano%29/

https://www.dialettoromagnolo.it/

https://dialettopiacentino.wordpress.com/

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The Language of the Week is Venetian, a Gallo-Italic language spoken in north-eastern Italy and adjacent Balkan countries! orbilat.com/Languages/Ven…
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I'll make the quesadillas exactly as ordered, but you pay the dry cleaners

Obligatory disclaimer: on mobile, non English speaker (due to a previous post, I thought I write everything in my language and pass through Google translation and the post it, but I may lose my reservation in Hell)

Still on hubby's account, an autocorrect error (and my son's hungry stomach) reminded me of my first conscious MC. It also kept away from Mexican food until I remet my husband.

Back in the begin of the 21th century, I was working in a cafe/sandwich shop. It was a 24/7 shop in a prime location (in an area with a lot of uni students and very active nightlife and the road was a major artery for anyone traveling in or out of the city). When I started, as a first year uni student trying to make some money, the shop was one of four of a small chain. Gary, the owner/manager has bought the rights from the original shop. Gary was also doing Quality Control for the shop, because at that point every shop had separate vendors.

Fast forward two years. The original owners decide to incorporate, because they have a lot of offers for franchising and a couple of problems with Quality Control have appeared. So, they bought back all the shops and instituted a more centralized approach to vendors. That was good for Gary, because he was the owner of the building, so he basically became a salaried manager and got extra income from the rent. Initially, nothing changed. We were still number 2 in sales, product was good. Then Dick entered the picture.

Dick was the new regional manager (the small chain had became big enough to reach national level) and the person responsible for Quality Control. He was considered something of a golden boy, having a business degree and helping with the expansion. The problem came from his ego. You see, Dick had done a cooking workshop (that provides a certificate, but nothing more) and considered himself something of a chef.

His first major change was installing a crepe station. Not restaurant quality crepes, but crepes on the go (folded like a triangle). That is important for later. While a bitch to learn at the beginning, it quickly became on of our best sellers. We usually went over 10L of crepe mixture on a slow day. Having success with his first change, Dick decided to apply his "chef" training and implement some new things.

At that point in time, Mexican cuisine was becoming popular in my country, due mostly to cooking shows. Dick decides to ride the trend and starts putting "Mexican" options on the menu. In reality, that

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Has France been committing cultural genocide on its linguistic minorities?

IMPORTANT: I only decided to write and post this discussion prompt because some people believe the answer to this question to be yes and even compared France to what China has been doing and I want you guys to talk about it.

First cultural genocide is generally defined as the intentional acts of destruction of a culture of a specific nationality or ethnic group. Cultural genocide and regular genocide are not mutually exclusive. However, be aware that it is a scholarly term used mainly in academia and does not yet have a legal definition in any national or international laws.

Second, the French Republic has multiple regional languages and non-standard indigenous dialects within its modern borders known colloquially as patois. The modern standard French language as we know it today is based on the regional variant spoken by the aristocracy in Paris. Up until the educational reforms of the late 19th century, only a quarter of people in France spoke French as their native language while merely 10% spoke and only half could understand it at the time of the French Revolution. Besides the over 10 closest relatives of French (known as the Langues d'oïl or Oïl languages) spoken in the northern half of France such as Picard and Gallo, there are also Occitan in the southern half aka Occitania, Breton, Lorraine Franconian, Alsatian, Dutch, Franco-Provençal, Corsican, and even Catalan and Basque.

Here are the list of things France has done and still practices in regards to its policies on cultural regions and linguistic minorities:

  • Rather than a break with the past, the French Revolution was a continuation of the formation of the French state from its feudal and fragmented origin into a unified country long worked o
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(Warning: Morbid dad joke) True Story -- My family were planning my mum's funeral. We always try to keep things light and try to stay positive, just as Mum would have it...

The funeral director was asking us what we think Mum should wear in her casket.

Mum always loved to wear sarongs (fabric wraps that go around the torso and drape downward a bit like a long skirt would), so my uncle suggested that she wear a sarong in there.

The funeral director looked a bit confused, as did some of our family members, to which my uncle added:

"What's sarong with that?"

I started laughing like an idiot. He was proud of it too. The funeral director was rather shocked. We assured her, and our more proper relatives, that Mum would've absolutely loved the joke (which is very true).

His delivery was perfect. I'll never forget the risk he took. We sometimes recall the moment as a way help cushion the blows of the grieving process.

--Edit-- I appreciate the condolences. I'm doing well and the worst is behind me and my family. But thanks :)

--Edit-- Massive thanks for all the awards and kind words. And the puns! Love 'em.

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If my son ever came out to be trans then I wouldn’t have a son anymore

I would have a daughter

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Ah yes, pretty hip
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Don't know if this was posted here before
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Bill and Melinda Gates got divorced. Melinda got the house...

But Bill kept the Windows

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Italian Republic (Greater Italy)
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From my 5-year-old son: "Hey"

True story; it even happened last night. My 5-year-old son walks up behind me and out of the blue says, "hey."

I turn to him and say, "yeah, kiddo? What's up?"

He responds, "it's dead grass."

I'm really confused and trying to figure out what's wrong and what he wants from me. "What? There's dead grass? What's wrong with that?"

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He says, totally straight-faced, "hay is dead grass," and runs off.

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Another idea for source language selection

Some time ago I had posted a listing of the world's 30 most widely spoken languages with a discussion on which of them might be good source languages for a worldlang. Based on the comments I received then and some further thinking, here is another proposal for selecting source languages. In a nutshell:

  • Select the most widely spoken language of each language family as representative of that family – provided it has at least 50 million speakers.
  • If a language family is really big (at least 500 million speakers), step one level down in the hierarchy and add a branch representative of each subfamily (branch) in that family – again provided that that representative has at least 50 million speakers.

Using this method gives us 15 representatives as source languages (sorted by the number by speakers of the whole family or branch):

  • Indo-European languages:

    • Germanic: English (1348 M speakers)
    • Indo-Iranian: Hindustani (Hindi/Urdu, 830 M)
    • Italic: Spanish (543 M)
    • Balto-Slavic: Russian (258 M)
  • Sino-Tibetan languages: Mandarin Chinese (1120 M)

  • Niger–Congo languages: Swahili (80 M)

  • Afroasiatic languages:

    • Semitic: Standard Arabic (630 M)
    • Chadic: Hausa (75 M)
  • Austronesian languages: Indonesian/Malay (218 M)

  • Dravidian languages: Telugu (96 M)

  • Turkic languages: Turkish (88 M)

  • Japonic languages: Japanese (126 M)

  • Austroasiatic languages: Vietnamese (77 M)

  • Kra–Dai languages: Thai (61 M)

  • Koreanic languages: Korean (82 M)

With these source languages, most people will have, if not their own language, then at least a closely related language (belonging to the same family or branch) among the sources. The only exception are speakers of language families that are quite small.

It is interesting to compare this selection with the proposal (called "top 25 filtered") from my earlier post. 14 language are shared among both proposals, but there are also some differences. The older proposal included Bengali (another Indo-Iranian language) as well as French and Portuguese (two other Italic languages), since I had admitted all the ten most widely spoken languages, while here only one representative of each family or branch is admitted.

It also included Persian, which I considered as belonging to a different branch, but strictly speaking this is not the case – both Hindustani and Persian are [Indo-Iranian languages](https://en.wikipedia.org

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What rhymes with orange.

No it doesn't.

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There will be point in the future when Canada will take over the world.

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My Bluetooth speaker wasn’t working so I threw it into the lake.

Now it’s syncing.

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D&D Language Tree and Real Life Substitutions

A D&D Rosetta Stone

I created this family tree of D&D languages mostly because I wanted to incorporate more linguistic meaning and history into the names of places and people than I could get with the many excellent random generators out there. Sure, I could say that "Xreghrothenia" comes from the ancient dragonborn phrase for "mountain which smells like spoiled eggs," but it always feels a little contrived and inorganic. Also some of that stuff is unpronounceable, which can be embarrassing if you forget to practice saying them out loud beforehand.

So, I tried to come up with a list of real life stand-in languages that would have some parallel connections to their D&D counterparts. The goal was to make things feel a little more immersive, and allow players to catch glimpses of meaning from foreign language names and phrases (not to mention a way for the DM to create foreign language texts easily). I failed miserably, of course, but here is the result anyway:

Squire Goshawk's D&D Language Family Tree

Disclaimer

I am not a linguist by any stretch of the imagination - my only language training comes by virtue of being a singer and having been taught how to pronounce things in various languages (and vague memories of two years of high school French). So, my knowledge is pretty basic and some of the specifics are tailored towards my particular D&D setting. This was created with my players in mind, who are American English speakers that probably took a couple of years of Spanish in high school (hence the lack of Spanish on the chart).

The Chart

The languages are color coded by script and arranged with the oldest towards the top. Solid lines show direct descent, and dashed lines show borrowed vocabulary or other influences (in game, not IRL).

The real life languages were chosen because they are easily available in Google Translate (except for P.I.E.), and in several cases they are modern languages representing older dialects. For example, German is standing in for Middle German and Romanian is standing in for Gallo-Romance. It works in practice because modern day Germans don't speak Middle German anymore, and so Common probably developed out of something like Middle Dragonborn. The parent language then continued on to develop into Modern Dragonborn. There are probably better choices for a few of these. I would have liked Deep Spee

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In surgery my doctor said, "So what do we have here?" I replied that I broke my arm in 12 places."

He replied, "Well, stop going to those places then!"

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To the person who stole my MS Office License.

I will find you. You have my Word.

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I told my wife I saw a deer on the way to work.

She said how do you know he was headed to work?

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In honor of Mother’s Day, I’d just like to say,

β€œthank you for your cervix.”

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I've started a boat building business in my attic...

...sails are going through the roof.

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He is right there...
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Made me smile

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If you slap Dwayne Johnsons butt

You officially hit rock bottom

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I got banned from /r/DadJokes for posting, "Frosted Flakes! Cheerios! Lucky Charms! Frosted Flakes! Cheerios! Lucky Charms! Frosted Flakes! Cheerios! Lucky Charms! Frosted Flakes! Cheerios! Lucky Charms! Frosted Flakes! Cheerios! Lucky Charms! Frosted Flakes! Cheerios! Lucky Charms!"

Mods said I'm a cereal reposter...

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What do you call a drunk person fumbling with their car keys?

A taxi

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Initially I didn’t believe that my chiropractor was any good.

But now I stand corrected.

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*Triggering britishers*
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Guys, today was my first day in the navy and I felt so lost!

Wait. Sorry, wrong sub.

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And on that note
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My whole life I thought Chewbacca was an Ewok....

Wookie mistake.

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I'm so proud. My 12-year old told this joke during dinner: What degree does Dr. Pepper have?

Theoretical Fizz-ics

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Knight Knight
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Why is Dark spelled with a β€˜K’ and not a β€˜C’?

Because you can’t β€˜C’ in the dark

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