Three amazing fights with the Heavyweight Championship on the line. Three knockouts with alternating winners. All were extremely competitive with back and forth action. They're all on YouTube. Just wondering why people don't cite this set of fights as one of the greats.
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I think this is actually a pretty interesting question. There’s no question Patterson has a much better heavyweight resume, with wins over Johansson and controversial losses/draws to Ellis & Quarry, two very good heavyweights, whereas Jones picked up a belt by beating John Ruiz.
Moreover, Patterson is one of those guys who might actually have matched RJJ for pure speed — he was incredibly fast.
For the sake of this poll, we’ll have them meet at 175. Patterson usually fought around 185, but he bulked up to compete at heavyweight, and I think he’d be pretty comfortable at LHW.
He gets and got criticized a lot for his poor chin, getting knocked down very often but he also got up more than any other boxer, that's quite remarkable. He became the youngest heavyweight to win the title only to be broken by Tyson some 25 years later, he was the first heavyweight boxer to regain his lost title and of course he won the gold medal at the Olympics in Helsinki in 1952 at middleweight.
Some of his notable wins include Archie Moore (to become the youngest champion), George Chuvalo, Oscar Bonavena and others, not to forget his fantastic trilogy with Ingemar Johansson in which there were a total of 14 knockdowns in 13 rounds across the 3 fights, also offering us one of the greatest knockouts of all time -Pattersons gazelle punch in the second fight making him the first heavyweight to ever reclaim his title.
I was also reading up on Patterson and his quotes and interviews; in the first Ali fight he blew out his back in the first round after going for a hook which missed, as the pain of the muscle spasms became unbearable and drastically limited his mobility he had started to wish that Ali would knock him out, voicing his disappointment when he just kept jabbing him. In the 12th round Ali finally went for the knockout and as the punches started raining on Patterson he felt good and calm, he was thinking "it's about time" only to have the referee come and stop the fight.
"A happiness feeling came over me. I knew the end was near. The pain of standing up in the ring, that sharp knife in my back that accompanied every move I made, would soon end. I would soon be out. And as Clay began to land these punches, I was feeling groggy and happy. But then the referee stepped in to break us up, to stop Clay's punches. And you may remember, if you saw the fight in the films, seeing me turn to the referee, shaking my head, "No, no!" Many people thought I was protesting his decision to stop the fight. I really was protesting his stopping those punches. I wanted to be hit by one really good one. I wanted to go out with a great punch, to go down that way. It never happened, and that is why I was protesting to the referee."
He also told a story about Sinatra and how he was at first very friendly and helpful but after his loss to Ali he refused to talk to him and went and sat on the other side of his suite so that it was impossible for Patterson to talk to him. Floyd took the hint and left.
After Listons second fight with Ali, Liston was in had spirits in the
... keep reading on reddit ➡My three favorite old school pressure fighters from hw; all were so similar in their approach yet so different; Marciano would stalk, Patterson would feint and shit, and Frazier would use his awkward rhythmic Bob and weave. So who wins, in their prime?
Dream fight scenario here, who you guys got and how?
In this Cus D’Amato interview the interviewer brings up the possibility of a Floyd Patterson and Sugar Ray Robinson fight , in which D’amato has no doubt Patterson would win. What do you guys think? I agree.
The fight takes place in 1958.
http://www.boxing.com/the_galento_files.html
He also said about the 1970's heavyweights "Where do they dig up these guys?"
I wanted to do a fight that could have happened in reality and not one where the fighters are decades apart. This fight would have taken place in 1956 with Marciano being 33 years old and Patterson being 21, so basically a prime vs prime fight.
Both have absolutely godawful chins, one is much more skilled, but the other is much more powerful.
Who you got?
Simple: taking nothing away from his incredible accomplishments, but Floyd Patterson would have been one of the greatest Light* Heavy Weights of all time.
Not sure if this is allowed. Mental game is a huge factor that keeps me going, something I need to continually condition. I have compiled a journal over the past 10 years of training filled with motivational quotes by coaches and athletes, the science related to muscle memory and combat, as well as self reflection and analysis of sparring. Most importantly it contains what I find to be valuable insight into the mental aspect of fighting and training. I would like to start sharing that with this community.
If anyone doesn't keep a journal I highly recommend it. I take 10 minutes after practice to reflect on everything - my short comings, mentality, and most importantly what I did well and could improve in sparring.
Who would win ??
How do you guys think Canelo would do against Floyd Patterson if he were to fight at LHW?
