David Chase Puns

I have to tell him something. I have a very good idea that would make us both a lot of money.

https://youtu.be/mxxpS9sCCLI

Notes:

1. Ralph did kill Pie O My.

2. Phil coming out of the closet to kill Vito and the extreme hatred for anything remotely gay was all INTENTIONAL and meant to imply that subconsciously Phil was a deeply closeted guy, to a point where even he didn't probably realize it on the surface. So

3. He doesn't regret or think any character was killed off too early. Although missed Big Pussy because of the actor.

4. Tony's ending is back to being ambiguous, and if anything Chase kind of more implied (to ME, could be wrong) that Tony was meant to be alive. He said his words were misinterpreted by people (including me) he never said Tony was dead, he said that was an ORIGINAL plan, that he gets killed coming back or going to new York. But they didn't go with that. But still left it mostly ambiguous.

Edit: I was unsure whether to give much stock to this, but seeing another post about it, I have to mention that he still couldnt help himself. Immediately after denying saying Tony is dead, when Steve said he believes Tony's alive and well, Chase kind of did "in an alternate universe" joke, mentioning that it's possible tony's alive in alternate universe and basically implying again that Tony did die. Frustrating guy, he can be.

5. Most baffling answer, he doesn't think Tony got worse a person by the end of the show and he doesn't get why people think that or that the show got darker. Which is just baffling.

6. He doesn't think MSON sequels are gonna be there but "allegedly" HBO are interested in a 6 episode miniseries. From the *end of the movie or Tony being made to right before the start of the show.

7. And also, MSON being advertised as a sopranos movie was NOT David Chase's Idea. Especially when it was shot.

8. The Final Talking Sopranos was exactly as any other TS. Steve talked about food, Michael was being existential, some breaking balls, and a fun ending.

His fans made his show what it is, not only making it a legendary show but a cult classic. Yet he always shits on us. "Oh i dont get why they would talk about the show with so much else going on in the world. " they wanted to see tony dead so i revoked it" etc etc.

Chase notably said before that they made Tony and the crews behavior darker as the show went on to remind fans that these are horrible people. But when you hear Chase's comments recently, where he criticized fans who wanted Tony dead in the finale, and he doesn't believe Tony became any worse as the series went on, and therapy did not enable his behaviors more.

You wonder why that is, and then when it's a bit apparent that Tony was partly modeled after Chase's behavior specifically with the therapy and family dynamic part, his recent "what was Tony, a toxic pershon?" complaints become a bit more understand understandable.

I remember at the time it was announced that season six would be split in half, there were numerous reports that HBO pressured Chase and the team to extend the show (since it was obviously HBO's biggest hit). Everything that was really relevant to the themes or plots of 6A and 6B -- mortality, appreciating life, Tony's inability to grow as a person, tying up the "sons" storylines of Christopher and AJ, the New York/New Jersey war -- could have been condensed into the first three or four episodes of A, and most of B (with the exception of maybe "Chasing It" and "Remember When"); the plot doesn't move in any significant way from "The Fleshy Part of the Thigh" through "Kaisha".

Obviously, had it just been a single season, certain things would have had to be condensed or eliminated. But the arc over 13 episodes could have easily been Tony gets shot by Uncle Junior, recovers/tries to view the world positively, sees his perspective sour as tensions with Phil escalate, meanwhile Christopher and AJ go further down the spiral and a mob war ensues.

There's at least a good six or seven episodes of mostly filler here, the majority of which is the Vito storyline. It doesn't add much beyond being a weird source of tension between Tony and Phil; there's not even a realistic "Vito tries to escape the mob life" plot -- he just enters a gay fantasy world with a stereotypically handsome and charismatic firefighter/chef in a quaint New Hampshire town.

Seriously? Someone that well-adjusted is immediately attracted to a tiny, overweight, deceitful and violent sociopath? And we're going to examine this relationship for like five episodes? It's funny because it's ridiculous and just so out there for the series.

At about the 8:45 mark of Episode #32 "University" on Talking Sopranos, Michael Imperioli mentions how David Chase wrote this episode partly to make the point that the characters of the show are still brutal criminals, and that viewers were losing sight of this, and becoming "too enamored" with the main characters.

Does anyone know of any other interviews, articles, anything really, where David Chase or any of the other writers or actors talk more about this? That they felt the audience was sympathizing too much or losing sight of the fact that the main characters aren't meant to be "the good guys"?

I think it's really interesting how the people involved with the show felt like the audiences were taking away the wrong things from what they were making. It's like they knew that some people would skip the Melfi scenes. The death of the author. Quasimodo predicted all this

https://deadline.com/2021/10/the-sopranos-david-chase-hbo-max-prequel-series-1234859438/

>David Chase has talked up the possibility of returning to The Sopranos universe with a sequel to The Many Saints of Newark.

>The creator of the hit James Gandolfini-fronted mob drama suggested, in an interview with Deadline, that it could be another feature film with Chase and Terence Winter writing together.

>Now, it’s emerged that it could possibly even end up as a TV series for HBO Max.

>Ann Sarnoff, CEO, Studios and Networks, WarnerMedia, told Deadline that the company was “thrilled” with the results of The Many Saints of Newark.

>“We’re talking to David about a new series, Sopranos related, on HBO Max,” she said.

>Chase said that if he was to return to The Sopranos world, any such potential story would take place after the film, which is set in the late 1960s and 1970s and before the original series, which starts around 1998. “There’s only one way that I would do it, and that was if Terry [Winter] and I could write the script together. That I would do.”

>Sarnoff admitted that a final decision as to whether the project becomes a series or a feature film has not been made, but a Sopranos prequel series is an intriguing possibility.

>She conceded that the box office numbers for The Many Saints of Newark, which stars Alessandro Nivola as Dickie Moltisanti and James Gandolfini’s son Michael Gandolfini as a young Tony Soprano, were not quite as big as the company would have liked, but pointed to the demographics of the people returning to movie theaters as one reason. She added that the film had a positive effect on the show, which launched on HBO in 1999.

>“You see The Sopranos pop into the top ten of viewed series on the service and it’s given it an entirely new life,” she said. “It’s literally lifted all of The Sopranos franchise in a new way. You can’t measure just by the box office.”

>Sarnoff’s comments come after Chase signed a five-year, first-look deal with WarnerMedia that covers film and TV across HBO, HBO Max and Warner Bros. Pictures Group.

>Chase previously wrote and developed A Ribbon of Dreams, a six-part miniseries for HBO that told the story of the beginnings of Hollywood, following a college-educated mechanical engineer and a cowboy with a violent past, who form an unlikely producing partnership and together become pioneers and then powers for a time in motion pictures. He said that it was all lined up but H

him as the boss combined with paulie being an underboss would make a perfect duo without tony.

So David Chase appears in that one scene with Paulie in Italy, and on my second watch through I noticed he’s in the background on the plane in the end scene of Luxury Lounge. Does David appear in the background of other episodes I haven’t noticed yet?

Details:

>The Sopranos creator David Chase has signed a massive new overall deal with HBO parent company Warner Media.
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>Chase has inked a five-year, first-look deal with the company to develop content for HBO, HBO Max and Warner Bros. Pictures Group.
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>“David Chase is one of the most gifted storytellers working in the film and television industry,” said Casey Bloys, chief content officer of HBO and HBO Max. “HBO has had a long and celebrated creative partnership with David, and this deal affords us a wonderful opportunity to continue this relationship at HBO and HBO Max.”
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>Added Toby Emmerich, chairman of Warner Bros. Pictures Group, “David has a singular voice and is a gifted writer and filmmaker. His work is pure and authentic, and highly compelling for a broad audience. The critical reception of The Many Saints of Newark speaks to David’s mastery of both film and television. We are thrilled to keep David in the Warner Bros. family.”

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/david-chase-sopranos-hbo-overall-deal-1235023889/

The Many Saints of Newark is streaming now on HBO Max

Love DC. Love the Sopranos but He’s a strange bird. He’s mad at HBO for marketing it like Tony Soprano is the main character. But boss, why would you include that snoozer of a scene with Tony and Liv in the teachers office talking about his IQ? That scene…listen to me very carefully…had ZERO to the do with the main plot of movie. ZERO. It was setting up things in the TV show that’s already ended it’s run.

You made a movie that was disjointed with too many plot points. “The Too Many Saints of Newark.”

But that’s OK. Admit you just did it for the envelope and let’s move on. I don’t fault anyone for making envelopes but please don’t act like the tortured artist being played by the big bad movie studio.

I will be interviewing David Chase in less than a week. If you have a question for him, comment below for the chance that it will get asked.

Edit: Thank you for all your help! All questions were helpful and some were used. The interview is linked below and available on a separate post to this subreddit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlleVfL1NdA

Seriously everyone on this show is not only a giant piece of shit (even the civilians) but like half of them are depressed as fuck and often times suicidal

Tony, AJ, Angie (until later), Irena, Gloria, Carmela (she’s more just miserable with where life took her), Chrissy, Eugene, Livia, Davey Scatino, that degenerate cop, need i go on? Not to mention half the people on this list either kill themselves or try to kill themselves!!!

Seriously what the hell inspired David Chase to write such a dark and miserable show? Probably his own muddah

And whatever happened to Gary Cooper? Dafuq was that dialogue about

Edit: I am not criticizing the show at all for being overly dark, I love it the way it is, I am simply asking what inspired him to make such a dark show

The Hollywood Reporter, Deadline, The AV Club: David Chase finally reveals what happened to Tony in The Sopranos ending

Personally, I'm a little disappointed. Not necessarily because Tony does in fact bite the dust (though that does bum me out a little bit) but because now I know for sure that he bit it. Part of the fun was the mystery. But, as Tony would say, "Whadaya gonna do?"

UPDATE: There seems to be some confusion, I meant how do you feel that the ending itself, which had been left ambiguous for years has been revealed?

Fucking Winghead is the acting boss of the family now!

Capos? Patsy, Albert Barese, by extension, Larry Barese. And new capos to be...... Benny Fazio, criminal mastermind?

Heard in a lot of interviews he had a sense of humour and a distinctive laugh but him reflecting on some of those scenes brought it out. I enjoyed it.

You don't like who hosts the Talking Sopranos podcast? Go shit in a hat

You think the movie should have been a tv series? Your sister's cunt.

You like orange juice with only shum pulp? Try eating grilled cheese off the radiator.

Seriously, whatever happened to Gary Cooper? Frankly, I'm depressed and ashamed.

Seriously. In an interview with Deadline, David said he goes on Reddit & reads stuff we say! Holy shit.

Check it out https://deadline.com/2021/09/david-chase-sopranos-revival-the-many-saints-of-newark-disdain-day-date-bow-interested-in-another-prequel-film-1234828184/

That just blows my mind.

When Tony is with the FBI in season 1, listening to the wiretapes from Green Grove, these include a conversation between Livia and Junior, (possibly) on the day of the shooting where they're standing outside a cinema and she talks about her cousin who lived like "an empty shell after his lobotomy, better yet should've died." If they had wire-tapped Green Grove, you can't possibly have that conversation on tape given they were outside or is that like a weird intentional detail that is hinting on Livia already working for the government?

Seriously. David recently let it be known he didn’t directed Many Saints because he had a heart attack & that his wife was seriously ill.

So I’m putting this out into the universe in the hopes in somehow, some way, does a little bit a good. How? I don’t know. But who knows how the universe works. Send out your love.

“I was here, it’s a joke” Chase wrote when asked about the poor reviews and questionable character timeline, later he mentioned he could get a “Dr.’s note” and that most the issues stem from his recent heart attack and related medications.

https://www.indiewire.com/2021/09/sopranos-creator-angry-many-saints-newark-streaming-hbo-max-1234664637/

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/4L9USEv

FS/FT

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I could never tell if he was using Richard to communicate to the audience how awful the Mob really is and how they’ve tarnished Italian Americans reputation, or if he was mocking him as overly status concerned, self righteous, self hating, and an egghead

Little Carmine: I heard the tidbits of what Chrissy's got in mind, the genre, and so forth. But David, I’ve gotta warn you. I'm very hands on. I learned that the hard way.

Little Carmine: I want to welcome all of you to the first meeting of possible investors on this project. Some of you know I've had nine TV seasons under my sub species: six in The Sopranos series alone, each with thirty thousand plus DVDs in print. That being said I usually find it helpful at this stage to include to my prospective partners and get your inputs… or "notes", as we call them.

Chris: David, you're on….

Chase: Well, we've been working on a new kind of Sopranos film, it takes place in the world of… you know...

Chris: It's about my grandfawtha. He’s got a young son, and a younger wife.

Chase: Anyway, they call him “Hollywood” Dick…

Silvio: No they don't 👆

Chris: Why the fuck not?

Silvio: Need I remind you of a certain "Jimmy Hollywood" movie?

Chris: Right, not "Hollywood". Go on David.

Chase: Right, so he’s kind of beating his wife, so his son has him clipped, but he just uses a steering wheel…

Vito: Oh, he’s gonna feel that the next day!

Chase: Right… so the son Dickie, he burns his dad’s body, but the body reassembles itself and shows up again in jail, where he’s also Dickie’s uncle… and his wife becomes Dickie’s goomara. Plus there’s Dickie’s associate Harold, he’s a moulignan who sets out to get revenge on everyone, especially Dickie, which is a pretty solid role. Right now it’s called "Young Tony Soprano and his mother and father, plus Dickie Moltisonti and Harold and his racial equality crusade and also the Newark Riots, featuring the lament of Junior and his murderous revenge"… but I'm thinking just "The Many Saints of Newark".

Larry: I'm confused, you said he’s dead…

Vito: How is Harold "evening" up with anybody? He’s an associate?

Little Carmine: As I understood it, a civil rights leader of sorts. Great title by the way.

Patsy: But if they burned his body in a fire, he’s not gonna end up back in jail…

Silvio: And how is that a Sopranos film?

Chris: What're you talking about?

Silvio: A Sopranos film…! Coupla made guys hanging at the strip club, Phil Leotardo on the loose! Not a mulignan.

Chase: Actually the focus is almost always outside of the mob… Livia Soprano, Gloria, Dr Melfi…

Silvio: GET THE FUCK OUT!

Little Carmine: Easy Sil, he’s making a point.

Silvio: Livia Soprano is an escaped mental patient. Gloria and Dr Melfi… different kind of mov

Steve Schirripa is so adamant that only David Chase knows what REALLY happened in certain situations, so on the final episode of the podcast he plans to ask Chase directly about: eggs; mayonnaise; what happened to Tony; suffocation; etc., as if there are definite answers to literary questions that ONLY the creator has.

Most good artists deliberately leave things open. Great musicians tend to prefer not defining what their lyrics mean, so that listeners can have their personal interpretations, and one song can mean different things to many.

David Chase knows this. He ended his master work ambiguously. Apparently he's into this kind of thing. There is no way in hell that this calzone with legs pressuring him on a podcast is going to change that.

Numerous inconsistencies and inaccuracies existed in the first season of the show, for example in the first episode when Tony is implied to be the boss, and then Jackie is introduced not too long later. But secondly the fact that Junior was kind of just allowed to whack Pussy Malanga, when in a TV program Malanga is referred to as a “mobster”, implying he’s a made guy. Junior shouldn’t have just been allowed to whack Malanga if he were a made guy unless he committed some grave offense such as ratting, which it is never implied that he did. Other inconsistencies include Tony just being able to beat the shit out of Mikey P for no reason. This got better throughout the show for example when it was taboo for Tony to slap Ralph Cifaretto, which may mean Chase learned more or got people on who could correct inaccuracies. Idk just an observation

One of my worst fears is that it will be a "remember this" "remember that" type movie that really panders to fans, and hearing David Chase in that interview makes it clear; He doesn't give a fuck about fans. He just wants to tell this Dickie Moltisanti story.

Other things I noticed

- calling it "A Sopranos Story" was not Chase his idea but he was too tired to fight it

- Tony Sirico recorded all the lines for Paulie so the actor playing Paulie had a reference, according to Chase Paulie was the most difficult character to get

-movie will be less than 2 hours, chase doesn't care about making it longer than needed

What did you think of his answers to all the “big” Sopranos questions? Anything you didn’t expect?

Unrelated, what tranquilizer is David Chase taking and where can I get some?