Brandon tried and failed to save his sister from a rapist (what he believed) he was stupid in his attempt but he still tried to save her, then he choked himself to death trying to save his father.
I've always considered him a tragic figure but fics seem to have him as a drunken man whore who either seduces ladies with lies or outright rapes them. Alot of it seems to be centred around Ashara Dayne but he literally only asked her to dance with Ned who was to shy to ask her himself, something a good brother would do.
Brandon seems like a man who loved his family and died in his efforts to protect them I don't understand the hate.
Okay, so imma talk about Brandon Stark.
He's not someone who shows up in the main series except as a memory. Generally, people write him as a likeable asshole. Someone who fucks around,but otherwise gives no fucks. You'll commonly see people argue that Ned recruited him to help court Ashara and he instead went a step further and slept with her. You'll also see people say that he was an absolutely porridge-headed idiot for riding to King's Landing like he did before his death. Generally people portray him as the Stark's answer to Jaime: a deadly, dangerous bad guy who regularly puts himself in an awful position.
I'm going to disagree with that. Somewhat.
So what do we know about this guy?
Ned's Memories
Well, first up, what does Ned think? Ned believes that Brandon had "wolf blood" in him which for Ned means something like "he was reckles." Ned further thinks that this is why Brandon died, and we also hear that he had slept with Barbrey Dustin out of wedlock and caused a minor diplomatic incident. (GRRM has also said that Brandon might have had a few bastards given his habits, establishing that he did sleep around a bit)
But curiously, Ned also thinks that Brandon would have been a better Lord of Winterfell than he (Ned) ended up being. There's an interesting mix here, it seems sort of discordant. Obviously Ned is probably just selling himself short here, as Ned certainly was an excellent Lord of Winterfell, his problems in the capital aside. Still its strange that Ned thinks of Brandon both as someone who could've been a great Lord and as someone reckless to the point of getting himself killed.
Cat's Memories
Cat remembers him as taller and handsomer than Ned, which can mean either that he was tall and handsome or that Ned is an ugly manlet. Whichever your preference. But she never knew Brandon that well, and of course the main memory she has is of Baelish's duel. IMO this duel presents Brandon in a highly favorable light. Baelish had no right to Catelyn's hand, and consequently no right to duel for it. Sure, Baelish believed he had slept with Catelyn at Catelyn's engagement announcement, but nobody else involved would see it that way. Baelish just looks like a twerp biting the hand that feeds him, trying to make himself rich (as Catelyn's hand in marriage is worth billions of $$$) Brandon could easily have ignored Baelish's challenge, but he takes it anyway. Even more, he actually takes off his armor when he realizes Baelish co
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my kindle arrives tomorrow, and i want to start reading Brandon Sanderson, he got a lot of books so i dont know what is the best book for start in this autor or genre.
If u have some advices for read Brandon's books would be amazing if u let me know it
Looking for stories where Brandon Stark kills Petyr Baelish during their duel for Catelyn's hand, and the aftermath of what happens. It would be fun to explore that. Even if Brandon Stark is still killed, that would be fine to read.
A Feast for Crows - The Princess In The Tower
The exploration took less time than it would have taken her to lace a pair of sandals, but at least it served to keep the tears at bay for a time. Arianne found a basin and a flagon of cool water and washed her hands and face, but no amount of scrubbing could cleanse her of her grief. Arys, she thought, my white knight. Tears filled her eyes, and suddenly she was weeping, her whole body wracked by sobs. She remembered how Hotah's heavy axe had cleaved through his flesh and bone, the way his head had gone spinning through the air. Why did you do it? Why throw your life away? I never told you to, I never wanted that, I only wanted . . . I wanted . . . I wanted . . . That night she cried herself to sleep . . . for the first time, if not the last. Even in her dreams she found no peace. She dreamt of Arys Oakheart caressing her, smiling at her, telling her that he loved her . . . but all the while the quarrels were in him and his wounds were weeping, turning his whites to red. Part of her knew it was a nightmare, even as she dreamt it. Come morning all of this will vanish, the princess told herself, but when morning came, she was still in her cell, Ser Arys was still dead, and Myrcella . . . I never wanted that, never. I meant the girl no harm. All I wanted was for her to be a queen. If we had not been betrayed . . . "Someone told," Hotah had said. The memory still made her angry. Arianne clung to that, feeding the flame within her heart. Anger was better than tears, better than grief, better than guilt. Someone told, someone she had trusted. Arys Oakheart had died because of that, slain by the traitor's whisper as much as by the captain's axe. The blood that had streamed down Myrcella's face, that was the betrayer's work as well. Someone told, someone she had loved. That was the cruelest cut of all.
A Game of Thrones - Catelyn II
She finished for him. "… crown prince, and heir to the Iron Throne. And I was only twelve when my father promised me to your brother Brandon." That brought a bitter twist to Ned's mouth. "Brandon. Yes. Brandon would know what to do. He always did. It was all meant for Brandon. You, Winterfell, everything. He was born to be a King's Hand and a father to queens. I never asked for this cup to pass to me." "Perhaps not," Catelyn said, "but Brandon is dead, and the cup has passed, and you must drink from it, like it or not."
A Dance with Dragons - Tyrion I
"Even a kinslayer is not requ
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The scene is 2013, I’m at a sports bar in the Chicagoland area and I’m fucking HYPED about Eddie Lacy being a Packer. I was desperate for a running game as the Pack hadn’t had a 100 yard rushing performance in 3 fucking seasons.
One of the first plays of the game Brandon Meriweather uses his head as a spear and knocks Lacy out of the game. It was one of those no doubt concussions where you knew his day was over.
Enter James Starks:
Dude is a super bowl hero that has been completely written off by everyone and barely made the roster that year due to Dejuan Harris getting hurt.
James proceeds to rush for over 100 and do this:
God bless James Starks and god bless the Green Bay Packers
Just started playing this and having quite a lot of fun, but yeah what the hell is going on with the succession.
On another I found Arya at Harrenhal but she is in the Frey Court, married to a grubby Frey. Is that a bug or just how it goes?
Finally Sansa seems to be in hiding somewhere around Winterfell but I can't find her. I really want to marry her to the Vale. Any ideas where she might be?
i.e.: There are SEVEN Starklings instead of six.
I was just thinking of this scenario and wanted to know if anybody has written this.
Bloodraven says he saw Bran’s birth, first step, heard his first word, and even saw Ned’s birth before that. He’s been watching Bran his whole life. But why? And if he was watching Bran so closely, why did he seemingly visit other dreamers and tell them to fly? What was he trying to accomplish?
When Jon sees Bran in a dream it’s as a weirwood. When Jojen sees him it’s as a winged wolf. When Melisandre sees him it’s as a boy with a wolf’s head. And when Bran sees Bloodraven, it’s as a three eyed crow.
Do you see where I’m going with this? I believe Bloodraven was always looking for a Brandon Stark. It started at least as far back as when Ned was born with Bloodraven watching the Starks, namely watching Ned’s older brother, Brandon Stark.
But when greenseers go into greendreams, it’s in another astral plane. The visions the dreamers see one another in are not them at home sitting in their rooms playing PlayStation. They are flying or falling or seeing the future or present or past, etc. And most importantly, they aren’t recognizable. Bloodraven has been looking for Brandon Stark but meeting other young dreamers along the way. Because...what form does Bran take in Bloodraven’s dreams? And as time was running out, perhaps Bloodraven started to panic and began to actively push dreamers to open their third eye hoping to get the right person (and possibly sending a few of them into madness in his impatience. Whoopsies).
I think also this points to Bran being the Prince that was promised. Bloodraven wasn’t looking for a Brandon Stark, he was looking for the Brandon Stark.
Thoughts?
Any stories where Bran is still a warg and has green dreams but doesn’t become the Three Eyed Raven. Possibly a story where someone else fills the role of Three Eyed Raven in training. Maybe Jon fills that role or Robb. Maybe, its not even a Stark! Aegon can take the role.
Anything Bran centric that doesn’t have him go north of the wall. Or meet Meera Reed. Bran goes south instead or just stays in winterfell.
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Naming patterns are tricky things. Most stories that have divergences pre-canon in regards to pairings name the children after the children of one (or both) parents. Cersei's brood almost always ends up with some variation of Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen, even if her marriage is different. There are plenty of fics that follow this formula.
Beyond the endless debates of Jon Snow's Targaryen name, there is one family this formula can not be easily applied to-that of the Starks in the event Brandon Stark lives.
The combination of a still Tully/Stark alliance and Ned's personal names (Robb after Robert and Bran after Brandon) mean that it doesn't make sense for the Starks of Winterfell to have at least some of their canon names if it's Brandon marrying Catelyn.
It gets further muddy if you have Ned married with children, as well.
Do you think that there's a good solution to this? I love the Stark children and dislike the idea of just substituting names onto children (ie a Robb stand-in that's named Rickard).
In a non-Rebellion AU, I'm really struggling how to feature the Starks. Is some contrite "Brandon died riding his horse" better than mapping out a new Stark family tree?
I'd love to hear your thoughts
In AGOT, when Bronn and Vardis are fighting, catelyn remembers the duel between Brandon and Baelish. In no way I support littlefinger but I did feel bad when he got wounded and lost his chance at catelyn . The way he mutters "cat". Am I the only one?
>"If we want the guardians of our city to think it's shameful to be easily provoked into hating one another, we mustn't allow any stories about gods warring, fighting, or plotting against one another... The young cannot distinguish what is allegorical from what isn't, and the opinions they absorb at that age are hard to erase, and apt to become unalterable. For those reasons, we should probably take the utmost care to ensure that the first stories they hear about virtue, are the best ones for them to hear."
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>~ Plato, Republic
Despite it's flaws, arguably the most important image of the finale is that of Aegon Targaryen (Jon Snow) kneeling to Bran the Broken. While I'm skeptical that Jon will be named Aegon in the books, this image symbolizes the conceptual core of the ending, which is the old narrative being supplanted by the new.
Though Tyrion's speech about Bran's story seems to come from left field, it's definitely from Martin, because it reflects something the show did not set up, but the books do. Bran's chapters are filled with recollections of Old Nan's stories, and his fixation on them. Of the Long Night, the Night's King, Bran the Builder, the Rat Cook, the Knight of the Laughing Tree, Brave Danny Flint, the Pact, and the Last Hero. These stories not only tend to repeat themselves during asoiaf as an indication of the cyclical nature of human history, they're also the legends which define the Seven Kingdoms.
The Seven Kingdoms as they exists during the story are ruled by the Iron Throne and thus built by the story of Aegon's Conquest. A story of submission through violence, and power achieved through force. Regardless of the exact truth of it, this is the story around which the Seven Kingdoms are unified.
I've often compared Daenerys to Don Quixote, and both characters are in many ways there to explore the positive and negative potential of stories to shape the human soul. For example Dany is essentially poisoned by Viserys' perspective of the world. Like the character of Don Quixote, the stories Daenerys fills her head with inevitably lead her (for good and then ill) to become a liberator, and then a tyrant. Like Quixote, and like Dany, the Seven Kingdoms are also built on stories, many of which set a violent precedent.
The story of Bran the Broken is significant because it sets a new precedent. It's a story of resilience, understanding, and finally choice. Bran's story is not abou
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First if all, i know there is an event in the game where you can find his children but i have yet to encounter them, so if anyone can tell me where they are located id appreciate it a lot, since I've looked around the internet and couldn't find any help. So yeah..
During ACOK there is this well known exchange between Jaime/Cat:
>"Brandon was different from his brother, wasn't he? He had blood in his veins instead of cold water. More like me."
>"Brandon was nothing like you."
>"If you say so. You and he were to wed." -ACOK, Catelyn VII
In this post, I wanted to explore some other similarities/differences between Brandon Stark and Jaime.
#Appearance/Character
They are both described as tall/handsome men who were excellent swordsmen/jousters:
Brandon:
>She remembered her own childish disappointment, the first time she had laid eyes on Eddard Stark. She had pictured him as a younger version of his brother Brandon, but that was wrong. Ned was shorter and plainer of face, and so somber. He spoke courteously enough, but beneath the words she sensed a coolness that was all at odds with Brandon, whose mirths had been as wild as his rages. Even when he took her maidenhood, their love had more of duty to it than of passion. We made Robb that night, though; we made a king together. And after the war, at Winterfell, I had love enough for any woman, once I found the good sweet heart beneath Ned's solemn face. There is no reason Edmure should not find the same, with his Roslin. -ASOS, Catelyn V
and:
>Brandon was the best of the Starks with sword in hand, and the best jouster as well. But Benjen has other skills that serve him well as a ranger... and Ned was likely the best battle commander. -SSM, About Brandon Stark: 15 December 2000
Jaime:
>He was more interested in the pair that came behind him: the queen's brothers, the Lannisters of Casterly Rock. The Lion and the Imp; there was no mistaking which was which. Ser Jaime Lannister was twin to Queen Cersei; tall and golden, with flashing green eyes and a smile that cut like a knife. He wore crimson silk, high black boots, a black satin cloak. On the breast of his tunic, the lion of his House was embroidered in gold thread, roaring its defiance. They called him the Lion of Lannister to his face and whispered "Kingslayer" behind his back. -AGOT, Jon I
and:
>The boy from the Basilisk Isles, for a start. Tumco Lho. Black as maester's ink he was, but fast and strong, the best natural swordsman Selmy had seen since Jaime Lannister. -ADWD, The Kingbreaker
and:
>**Brienne remembered her fight with Jaime Lannister in the woods. It had been all that she
... keep reading on reddit ➡>Brandon. Yes. Brandon would know what to do. He always did. It was all meant for Brandon. You, Winterfell, everything. He was born to be a King's Hand and father to queens. I never asked for this cup to pass to me.
So I've come across this quote in another post and it got me thinking. I know I might be overthinking and it's just a simple quote but I just wanna say my views.
So I've read a theory about Rickard's Southern ambitions and STAB faction motives. I've tried to search for that post but I've failed in finding that post.
But the summary of that theory is that the STAB (Stark, Tully, Arryn, Baratheon) faction wanted Rhaegar to call for the Great Council at the tourney of Harrenhal. And there plan was to trick Rhaegar that they're supporting him but betray him by pushing Robert Baratheon's claim for the throne during the council. Since the lord's from the four Kingdoms ( atleast most of them ) will support their Liege lords, Robert will become king.
If this theory is true then surely Jon Arryn will be Hand of the King, he's the first choice for this position.
But once again look at the quote from Ned.
>Brandon. Yes. Brandon would know what to do. He always did. It was all meant for Brandon. You, Winterfell, everything. He was born to be a King's Hand and father to queens. I never asked for this cup to pass to me.
>He was born to be a King's Hand
So was Brandon supposed to be the successor of Jon Arryn as Hand of the King? Was Ned referring to their failed plan where Brandon was supposed to become the Hand of the King. So Brandon is HOTK and Lyanna is Queen, these might be the southern ambitions Rickard had.
But I know this might be nothing but a simple quote from Ned thinking how it's supposed to be Brandon instead of him. And even if STAB faction's plotting is true, Brandon is not that suitable for the Hand of the King position. And even if Brandon was supposed to be HOTK, Ned wouldn't know about that plan.
What do you think? Was Brandon really supposed to be the HOTk?
And if someone has the link to the theory of the STAB faction plans, mention it. I'll add it in the post. And finally thanks for reading and sorry for my bad English.
TL;DR - STAB faction's original plan is to use Robert's claim at the Great Council and make Brandon as the HOTK?
...was referring to the Three Eyed Crow, not Coldhands, as the monster.
Am on my rrrread, and I for some reason had always thought Coldhands was referring to himself in this passage. Maybe that's just how I've been remembering it. Maybe I hadn't been reading carefully enough.
>Meera's gloved hand tightened around the shaft of her frog spear. "Who sent you? Who is this three-eyed crow?"
>"A friend. Dreamer, wizard, call him what you will. The last greenseer." The longhall's wooden door banged open. Outside, the night wind howled, bleak and black. The trees were full of ravens, screaming. Coldhands did not move.
>"A monster," Bran said.
>The ranger looked at Bran as if the rest of them did not exist. "Your monster, Brandon Stark."
>"Yours," the raven echoed from his shoulder. Outside the door, the ravens in the trees took up the cry, until the night wood echoed to the murderer's song of, "Yours, yours, yours."
Any story with the Tully replaced by a son of Catelyn???
