On this day, 822 years ago, John of house Plantagenet/Angevin was crowned King of England.
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How influential was Henry II, the first Angevin King of England, in Continental Europe politics? Was he perhaps more *powerful* than Louis VII King of France?
I'm sorry if this question isn't specific, I'll try to clarify here:
Henry II is the first King of England is sometimes credited in more recent times to be the founder of the Angevin Empire, because of his substantial lands in France. Based on my limited and quick research, the term Empire isn't really accurate, as he governed over his titles as seperate entities, similar to his ancestor William I. From what I understand, his lands in France were therefore subject to French law, and essentially under the King of France.
But Henry's highest title is King of England, and given that he had at times control over greater parts of France than the King himself, did Louis VII have any authority over Henry's lands on the continent? It seems that Louis was afraid Henry might eventually take over as King of France. Were Henry to lay claim to the Kingdom of France, would it have been seen as a revolt or conquest? (Sorry for the if question, no need to answer it if unclear)
I guess the basis of my question is the claim I've often seen that Medieval England wasn't a key player in continental European politics until the 100 years war, or even not until the Tudors. People that makes these claims often say that England is only being hyped up because of its later dominant Empire. This has often seemed odd to me, especially for the rule of the 3 Angevin kings.
To try to simplify: Were Henry's lands in France more of a loose confederation of weak vassals, or was Henry seen as a second king almost next to Luis?
Additionally, his marriage to Eleanor of Aquitaine must confirm him as a man of high importance. Did that marriage secuire his control over Aquitaine, or was it still ruled by Eleanor as she had prior to their marriage?
I'm sorry if my rambling here is confusing, and if I haven't simplified my answer. I'll welcome any insight into the complicated political landscape of this region in the mid 12th century, even if it doesn't relate to much of what I've discussed/asked
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[Challenge] Have the Plantagenet Kings of England maintain their control of Angevin territories and prevent expansion of the Capetian and then Valois direct control over what is now western France such that today eastern and western France are instead two separate countries.
King John of England, called Lackland due to his loss of continental territories as a result of war with Philip II of France. But what if he had won and further Plantagenets had solidified their control and eventually transferred suzerainty over Normandy, Brittany, Maine, Anjou, Poitou, La Marche, Limoges, Auvergne, Aquitaine and Gascony from Γle-de-France and the Kings of France to the Crown of England? Bonus points for ending up with a modern "UK" consisting of at least England, Normandy, Brittany, Anjou, Poitou and Aquitaine.
What else changes in Europe?
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A world where the Visigoth kingdom wasn't completely destroyed, and French-English conflicts lead to the Duchy of Gascoigne in French lands becoming it's own Papacy-supported kingdom and ally of England, under the Angevin dynasty. PoD is ~705, current year is 1350. Criticisms welcome.
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Assassin's Creed (2007): King Richard I speaks English with a French accent because in real life he spent all his life in the Angevin territories of France, he spoke Occitan, Latin, Anglo-Norman language and Old French, and barely knew Old English or Middle English.
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A world where the Visigoth kingdom wasn't completely destroyed, and French-English conflicts lead to the Duchy of Gascoigne in French lands becoming it's own Papacy-supported kingdom and ally of England, under the Angevin dynasty. PoD is ~705, current year is 1350. Criticisms welcome.
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Holy Angevin Empire (The HRE but it's France and England)
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Best attempt at recreating the Kingdom of England (Angevin Empire) in CK3 from CK2's 1187 start date
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Assassin's Creed (2007): King Richard I speaks English with a French accent because in real life he spent all his life in the Angevin territories of France, he spoke Occitan, Latin, Anglo-Norman language and Old French, and barely knew Old English or Middle English.
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What were the contemporary reactions of medieval chroniclers and other non-involved but neighboring medieval European kingdoms when the Kingdom of England gained its massive expanses of land in France and became what we now refer to as the Angevin Empire?
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TDIH: March 30, 1282, The people of Sicily rebel against the Angevin king Charles I, in what becomes known as the Sicilian Vespers. Illustration: Sicilian Vespers (1846), by Francesco Hayez.
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The Angevin (England) Empire controlled about half of France, parts of Ireland and all of England. How was it not able to conquer all of France and what lead to it's decline and loss of French territory?
I've been consuming a lot of youtube videos and podcast on the history of the England and notice that at it's height, the Angevin Kings of England controlled what appears to be at about 50% of France, parts of Ireland and all of England. What factors prevented it from it just taking over all of France and what factors lead to it's decline and eventual loss of territory in France?
I don't have an understanding on the wealth and population of the Angevin territory in France vs rest of France. I also don't know if the rest of France was unified against the Angevin Empire. I'm looking to get a good understanding of the situation and the factors that contributed to Angevin Empire not being able to all of France and how they eventually lost their French territory.
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ChΓ’teau dβangers - generally considered to be the most defensible French ChΓ’teau from the Middle Ages. Build by Louis IX to protect the region against the english Angevin kings.
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AN EVENT IN HISTORY; 1154; An_ANGEVIN_period dawned in England
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July 6: Elisabeth Lokietek marries the Angevin king of Hungary Carobert.
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TDIH: March 30, 1282, The people of Sicily rebel against the Angevin king Charles I, in what becomes known as the Sicilian Vespers.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicβ¦
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︎ Mar 30 2020
First time I see AI England recreating the Angevin Empire
So, I was just playing a chill colonizing game with Portugal, everything went pretty normal, England surrended Maine and started eating Irish Minors
But then, England attacked France with help from Castille while France was at war with Burgundy and absolutely destroyed Baguette, years later they pulled a Uno-reverse card and threatened war for Maine, which France accepted and gave Maine back to England
Then England full annexed Brittany and started yet another war with France, with this being the result
I donΒ΄t know about you guys, but for me England actually keeping itΒ΄s continental holdings and getting new ones was pretty shocking
https://preview.redd.it/v36z7mosm6s41.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=3bd72d01aaa6ecdd681b68aee1e765a903e2b963
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︎ Apr 11 2020
An NHS nurse unearthed a 600 year old golden bible, while out metal detecting in York, England. The small book is 22-24 carat gold, and dates back to the 15th century. It is believed to have belonged to a relative of King Richard III.
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A miniature depicting Richard II, King of England, and Isabella of France on their wedding day in 1396. She was six, he was twenty-nine. Froissart's Chronicles, 14th century CE [1280x1787]
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Before you ask, no, depicting the King of England as "dummy thicc" was not a compliment back then.
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Born today : September 5th - Louis VIII the Lion, King of France, "an active leader his years as crown prince during his father's wars against the Angevins under King John", "Pretender to the English throne"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louβ¦
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The likely next King of England is an anti science buffoon. He might even cause a health crisis.
youtu.be/lYggB8nvU5g
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On this day in 1016, Cnut the Great became King of England, and for a short time went on to create the 'North Sea Empire', uniting the thrones of Denmark, England, Norway and Scotland under the Raven banner.
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The shield once used by King Henry V of England (1386-1422)
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Did the rise of merchants and cities in Angevin England in the 12th century offer any opportunities for peasants or woman to elevate their social position?
In what ways did they improve, if any. Or rather, did they have more limitations?
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King George IV of England poses for Paper Magazine and "breaks the internet" (1825)
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Ceremonial parade armet given as a gift by Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian I to King Henry VIII of England in 1511. The symbolism and meaning of this bizarre helmet, apparently modelled on one of Henry's court fools, remains unclear. Royal Armouries, Leeds, England. [1920x1489]
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Roland the Farter: a medieval jester for King Henry II of England. Each Christmas he was obligated to perform a special fart for the kings court. He was compensated with a Manor and 30 acres of land.
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Roland the Farter: a medieval jester for King Henry Il of England. Each Christmas he was obligated to perform a special fart for the kings court. He was compensated with a Manor and 30 acres of land.
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︎ Dec 27 2021
TIL that in response to rising wages as the Black Death led to a shortage of workers, King Edward III of England passed the rather draconian 'Statute of Labourers' in 1351 that made requesting or offering higher wages than pre-pandemic levels an imprisonable offence.
avalon.law.yale.edu/medieβ¦
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16 December 1431, Hundred Years' War β Henry VI of England is crowned King of France at Notre Dame in Paris.
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"Goodnight you princes of Maine, you kings of New England." Merry Christmas!
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TIL That a "Grand North Sea Empire" existed briefly under Sweyn Forkbeard, the King of Denmark, Norway and for 5 weeks (1013 - 1014) the first Viking King of England.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweβ¦
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On this day in 1016, Cnut the Great became King of England, and for a short time went on to create the 'North Sea Empire', uniting the thrones of Denmark, England, Norway and Scotland under the Raven banner.
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︎ Nov 30 2021
[Mirror] (rumor) Mo Salahβs agent Ramy Abbas Issa flew into ΒEngland on Saturday β Βfuelling speculation of further talks over a new Β£500,000-a-week deal for the Egyptian king.
mirror.co.uk/sport/footbaβ¦
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The shield once used by King Henry V of England (1386-1422) [869x926]
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︎ Jan 15 2022
King James II, final Catholic monarch of England, Ireland and Scotland (as James VII).
https://preview.redd.it/ezbprsvlmw581.jpg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e5d783fcb608fd611ce06ad5d6fabbd86efbe9a
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Question about factors that led to the fall of the Angevin Empire
sorry if this question is too wide or brief for this subreddit. I'm researching this area of history for my A-Level coursework and i'm looking for help in factors that led to its downfall. I've got points like the Great Anarchy 1139-53, the Third Crusade amd the wars with france but i'm struggling to think of a 4th point. I was originally going to include the Magna Carta and the 1st Barons war but the collapse was before this occured so it probably can't be included. There's also relations with the church during this time but i can't seem to find a why in how thats related to the fall of the empire. If there's anything you guys can think of for a 4th point or any feedback for my other points will be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance
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