CMV: The belief that human beings have immortal, immaterial souls is akin to belief in a flat earth or a geocentric universe, and has no place in a modern society.

This is by no means directed solely at Christians. I am including belief in reincarnation (particularly those of New Age spiritualism), ghosts, psychic mediums who communicate with the dead, etc.

I know this probably comes off as me trying to be edgy or controversial, but bear with me a second. It’s a bit of an old chestnut at this point, but the way that belief in spirits/souls distances people from the real, physical world seems to me unhelpful at best and dangerous at worst. Maybe that distance is a necessary coping mechanism for many people to exist in a universe that is random and dangerous, but it also enables people to retreat away from the physical world as something that is inconsequential (or, at the very least, secondary), just a temporary moment in our infinite existence. The irony here is that our desire to escape from the cruel indifference of reality creates new problems for us (religious conflict, anyone?), and blinds us to the possibility of collective solutions that could make the physical world a safer, less random place.

I compare belief in souls to belief in a flat earth or a geocentric universe because, in my view, they are all intuitive beliefs that have ultimately been disproven by scientific inquiry. To someone that doesn’t know any better, it seems like the sun moves around the earth. It seems that the earth is flat when you’re standing on the ground. It seems that humans have souls because we have internal mental experience, and we want/need to make some sort of sense of that experience. I also compare belief in souls to these beliefs, in particular, because while flat earthers are widely mocked and there is little to no discussion of a geocentric universe, ask any ten people you know and I’m positive at least a few of them believe in souls. Probably a majority. And here we find another irony, because while flat earthers are no doubt stupid, they haven’t really ever hurt anyone. We know that belief in eternal souls and the places they go to, on the other hand, have been at least partly responsible for a lot of terrible acts in our species’s history.

So, yeah, convince me that belief in souls is not just a form of denial to cope with our mortalityβ€”one that ultimately creates more problems than it solves. Or, at least, explain to me why people are so reluctant to give up the ghost in the shell, so to speak (I couldn’t help myself).

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πŸ‘€︎ u/BackThatThangUp
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Modern Flat earth societies - Do flat earthers really exist?

Are there really people out there who think the earth is flat? Some of those who claim to be flat earthers seem to be in it for other reasons - notoriety, funding....

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πŸ‘€︎ u/balloontrap
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Sent this to the flat earth society today...
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Coldramen777
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Are the map designers part of The Flat Earth Society?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/BobbyBae1
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Checkmate, flat earth society
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Road_is_choppy
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What jobs would the elves take if they stayed in Middle Earth and integrated our modern society?

I think they'd be philosophers, poets, craft jewels, singers,...

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ELI5: How did the believe that Earth is Flat manage to gain their root in this current modern society?

I understand the topic is hugely debated with people in the past being executed like Galileo Galilei

And the Muslim scholars being sneered for their teaching that the world is shape like an ostrich egg.

But with modern science, isn't this already a fact?

That the world is not flat.

When and how did the believe reemerge?

Or is this simple satire that I took seriously?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/placeboiam
πŸ“…︎ Mar 24 2017
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TIL there is a modern society that still believes the earth is flat. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fla…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Savagely_Inclined
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When the MC is a flat earth society believer..
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πŸ‘€︎ u/AzureSky77
πŸ“…︎ Dec 30 2021
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Flat Earth Society Redditors, when did you start practicing flat earth ideology? How can you explain modern technology such as satellites? Do you tell people on the first date?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Phl00k
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Flat earth society on planets
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πŸ‘€︎ u/DingDongPuddlez
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Does UBC have a flat earth society?

If so how can I join?

As someone with an avid interest in physics and astronomy, I think I have a lot to contribute to cutting edge research in flat earth theory.

If it doesn’t exists, who wants to create one together?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Explodingpotato11
πŸ“…︎ Dec 02 2021
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Left is the flat earth society of liberalism.
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TIL there is a modern day society dedicated to proving that the Earth is in fact flat en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fla…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/VTchillin88
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The COVID19 situation has been especially stressful for the Flat Earth Society.

They fear that the social distancing measures could push people over the edge.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Sur5er
πŸ“…︎ Apr 28 2020
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Oh no, Hop Pop is a member of The Flat Earth Society (which is centered in California conveniently)
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πŸ‘€︎ u/sean1477
πŸ“…︎ Oct 24 2021
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The Modern Portfolio Theory Flat Earth Society institutionalinvestor.com…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Lebanon_Don
πŸ“…︎ May 14 2014
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[WP] "Hahaha! At last, the world governments have agreed to allow us aboard their new starship. The Flat Earth Society will finally be vindicated! ... Okay, you win. Can we come down now? ... Shit they ditched us didn't they?"
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πŸ‘€︎ u/IndependentWin6
πŸ“…︎ Jan 06 2022
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What character from a non-Earth location would be most successful in modern day society on Earth? Wrong answers only.

Now to be specific, I am defining non-Earth, as any setting that is not this planet. So, Middle Earth, Westeros, any setting that may look like Earth, but isn’t, counts.

Make sure to give your rationale!

Reposted because I messed up on the title.

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Was the shape of the Earth ever actually a contentious debate in ancient times? Did a large number of people actually think the Earth was flat or was this a belief that was just erroneously attributed to ancient people retroactively by people in modern times?

By "ancient", I'm mostly referring to people around the time of ancient Greece, give or take a thousand years or so.

Eratosthenes very famously estimated the Earth's circumference to a very accurately by measuring the difference in shadows in Alexandria and Syene, and this was around 240 BC. It's also well-known that mariners understood that the top of a ship's sails could be seen on the horizon before the ship itself could be seen, indicating the world is round.

My question is were things like this well-enough understood by common people across the ancient world to where most people knew the Earth was round, or were these just things that were understood by the scientific elite at the time but not widely-held opinions?

The reason I ask is because just looking up at the shape of the moon or sun seems like it would be enough proof that the Earth is round, but perhaps I am taking for granted what I already know and not appreciating potential ambiguity from the fact that these shapes, although visible, would nevertheless appear as 2D shapes.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/ColorsYourFame
πŸ“…︎ Jan 02 2022
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flat earth society
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πŸ‘€︎ u/ssjgod2004
πŸ“…︎ Nov 16 2021
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flat earth society
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πŸ‘€︎ u/ssjgod2004
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Jeff Bezos should fly the leaders of flat earth society out of the atmosphere to teach them what is real.

First good thing Bezos have done in that case

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Es sollte eine Reality-Show geben, in der AnhΓ€nger der "Flat Earth Society" den Rand der Welt finden mΓΌssen.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/OlleZibebe
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I just sent this meme to the Flat Earth Society on Twitter.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/VexxWrath
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As if I'm ashamed from being from the greatest country on earth and the foundation for all modern democracies and society as we know it.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/elmontyenBCN
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Was the shape of the Earth ever actually a contentious debate in ancient times? Did a large number of people actually think the Earth was flat or was this a belief that was just erroneously attributed to ancient people retroactively by people in modern times? reddit.com/r/AskHistorian…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/HistAnsweredBot
πŸ“…︎ Jan 02 2022
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A sort of intermediary model that incorporates both traditional flat earth with /u/Roxxagon’s more modern Great Ice Ball Theory
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πŸ‘€︎ u/dragonwp
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Love the level of detail on the show! Flat Earth Society certificate is epic!
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πŸ‘€︎ u/RealTheAsh
πŸ“…︎ Aug 29 2021
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Flat earth society was right after all! v.redd.it/ebaxk34eaww71
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πŸ‘€︎ u/sscheffler
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Flat Earth Society on Planets
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πŸ‘€︎ u/soojakh
πŸ“…︎ May 26 2021
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The Covid19 situation has been particularly stressful for the Flat Earth Society.

They fear social distancing measures will push someone over the edge.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/MissMoops
πŸ“…︎ Jan 10 2021
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Say what you want about the Modern Flat Earth Society...

But they have members all around the disk.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/PlamZ
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My flat earth society is the best one on the globe
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πŸ‘€︎ u/at21232
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The flat earth society has members all around the globe.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Just_y_not
πŸ“…︎ Feb 01 2021
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The flat earth society has members all around the globe , where are they?
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